Posted on 09/23/2008 7:50:34 AM PDT by markomalley
Last March when polls reported that 10% of the population thought Barack Obama was Muslim, I counseled calm: Obama is a new character on the scene. As people get to know him, that percentage will decline.
Instead, it's gone up. The newest poll from the Pew Research Center showed that 13% now believe he's Muslim - and a staggering 19% of McCain supporters believe him to be Muslim. Only 48% of Republicans say Obama is Christian (the balance is unsure).
This is truly frightening - not so much because of the implications for Obama but because of what it says about how we as Americans consume information. With more time, and more information swimming about, the public has become progressively less well informed.
To some extent this is about the politicization of mainstream media. Increasingly, people gravitate to the media sources that confirm their preconceived notions - Fox and Rush and WND.com for conservatives and Olberman and Kos for liberals. If that's true, that represents a searing indictment of conservative media - for either promoting or failing to shoot down a blatant falsehood. (There may be counter examples on the liberal media; please post if you have them).
But this can't be the whole explanation. After all, the percentage of independents who think Obama is Muslim also rose from 8% to 14%.
Then I noticed this: the biggest increase in the percentage who think he's Muslim was among young people. Only 8% of people from 18-29 believed he's Muslim in March. Now, 17% do. By contrast, among those 65 and older, the percentage who thought he was Muslim actually dropped during this period.
What's the biggest differentiator between those groups when it comes to news consumption? The internet. Younger people get their information online. Older people still use print.
As the editor of a website, I hate to even suggest this but is it possible that this Muslim factoid provides chilling proof that web-dependent news consumers end up more poorly informed than in the olden days? Is it possible that all the fuddy-duddy old media people who warned about the internet dumbing us all down were right?
No. It means that there are more independent sources of news so we don't all end up the mind-numbed liberal idiots that the MSM would have us be.
2. Is it possible that all the fuddy-duddy old media people who warned about the internet dumbing us all down were right?
No. More likely is the fact that they are bemoaning their loss of monopoly on information.
Strange that only 19% of McCain supporters know the truth about Barack Hussein Obama.
Just cause his middle name is hussein, and his first is short for mubarrack.. And he grew up going to a madrassa.. Gee, who would ever think he’s possibly islamic?
Maybe he really is a Muslim, dumba$$. He more or less said so on live TV.
Strange that only 19% of McCain supporters know the truth about Barack Hussein Obama.
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I am not buying that number. It is so OBVIOUS, not only in evidence, but in public announcement by Obama himself. Wake up America, you dolts!!!
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx
Blaming the internet because we are more informed here than with CNN is = to blaming the spoon because Rosie O’Donnel is fat.
They left out ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, BBC, NPR, NYTIMES, LATIMES, WASHINGTON POST, and many, many more.
I don’t know if Barack HUSSIEN Obama is a muslim or not. But here is what I do know:
- His church of 20 years has ties with the nation of islam.
- Obama’s father is a muslim, and Barack spent the first 5 years of his life being raised muslim. He attended a madrass.
Here’s what the evidence points to:
- Obama is at the very least, very sympathetic to muslims.
That’s all I need to know. There is more, but that’s enough.
Yeah, talk about a weird argument. I guess he’d rather us just get our news from the New York Times and not ask questions.
And if Hussein gets elected, 60 percent will decide that he’s a Muslim.
Is it The Internet’s Fault that More and More People Think Obama is Muslim? NO
I got the info from a friends friend who is muslim (just moved to the middle east last week actually) who says he is Muslim. No doubt in her mind. Where do you think she got the info. It must be going through back channels somewhere.....their temple or whatever they call church maybe?
Actually I'm surprised it is THAT high. They must have a rather loose definition of "Christian". I don't see too much "fruit of the Spirit" coming out of him.
Well Obama DID try to make a special day for an islamic center in Illinois:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
“Declares November 1, 1997 to be South Shore Islamic Community Center Day”
This is on the official record of the State of Illinois.
If not in name, a sympathizer at the least.
We aren’t do our job then, the Republican percentage of informed voters, should be much higher. Let’s start ciculating the truth and quadrupple that number of even shoot for 100%!!!
Let’s go team!
We aren’t do our job then, the Republican percentage of informed voters, should be much higher. Let’s start ciculating the truth and quadrupple that number of even shoot for 100%!!!
Let’s go team!
We aren’t do our job then. The Republican percentage of informed voters, should be much higher. Let’s start circulating the truth and quadrupple that number of even shoot for 100%!!!
Let’s go team!
If one takes a respectful, multicultural world view then we can respect Islam’s right to claim Obama as a Muslim.
If we use the Christocentric anti world view, then we can cling to the claim that Obama has renounced Islam and is now a Christian.
Both sides cannot be correct though.
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Wrong.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA admitted to Geo S. on this week on ABC he was a Muslim?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgHg6QheTfw
could it be because his ‘church’ loves Farrakhan and Wright sounds like a crazy mullah?
could it be because Obama sponsored Islamic Community Day?
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
Could it be because he studied the Quran in school (when most Americans studied the Pledge of Allegiance) and said that the muslim call to prayer was “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
The authors next post will deal with the evils of racist republicans...which he will of course claim to be a redundancy.
I suggest that Barack Obama should surprise his girls with an adorable poodle puppy this weekend and make sure that a dozen or so photographers witness this heart warming event. He should hug his wife and kiss the puppy. Then he needs to invite his favorite media people to a pork rib dinner in his backyard where he is witnessed consuming a whole platter of ribs washed down with several bottles of Bud (not lite) beer.
The internet provides more information than traditional outlets. It’s up the person consuming it to decide whether it’s truthful or not.
Senator Obama himself said "my Muslim faith" while being interviewed on TV. Was he "promoting" a blatant falsehood? How many people, when in a conversation about their religion, name their own religion incorrectly?
After Senator Obama's statement the TV host jumped in to "correct" him saying, for him, "Christion faith". So was George Stephanopoulos "promoting or failing to shoot down a blatant falsehood"?
Muslims all over the world seem to think he’s Muslim. I haven’t heard a peep out of the usual suspects who issue fatwahs against any Muslim who defects. And Barry certainly WAS a Muslim. Which, in Muslim eyes, either makes him a Muslim now, or an evill apostate.
They sure ain’t treating him like an evil apostate.
As for being a Christian, his church is Christian in name only, and we don’t even know whether he has been baptized.
Yes, he attended a church for twenty years whose pastor was a former Black Muslim, which does not require members to be baptized, and which says that Muslims are welcome to join.
Why wouldn’t there be uncertainty about Obama’s faith? He went to school in Indonesia where he was registered as Barry Soetero, a Muslim. He was allowed to leave school on Fridays to accompany his stepfather to the mosque. He told a reporter that he still loves the sound of the Mosques’ evening call to prayer.
After his mother left Indonesia and her second husband, she eventually went to Hawaii and dropped off Barry and his half-sister with the grandparents, who were, I believe, agnostics.
Barry changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama after he grew up. When he told a firend that he aspired to the Presidency of the USA, he was told to ditch any association with the Moslem faith and to become a Christian. So Barack shopped around, and he and Michelle chose a barely Christian church which preached black lieration theology instead of the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
Now he claims to be a Christina, but often misquotes gospel verses and twists them into ideas which are totally antithetical to Jesus Christ.
A few weeks ago, he slipped up and stated “my Muslin faith”, and was corrected by Georgie boy Stephanopolis.
The real question is, “Why would anyone really know what his faith is?”
True, no real Christian could EVER make such a slip as to accidentally let slip “...my Muslim faith.. uh my Christian faith”
Really, if that doesn’t say it all, WTF does?
I’d blame People Magazine..
They printed Michelle Obama’s comment that she and her husband don’t give their children birthday or Christmas presents...
Guess which religion doesn’t celebrate birthdays or Christmas...?
belief.net is a very liberal website so not surprised the “editor” takes shots at internet news sources and supports the old marxist media.
That photo places Obama in the world citizen, multicultural camp. I consider the Muslim question a valid one.
Since the media is not Christocentric they should be more accepting that Obama is Muslim, or at least force him to aggressively fight the Muslim claim that he is.
“who says he is Muslim”
Go to
You can read:
Indonesian school record lists him as an Indonsian citizen AND Muslim as religion
Travel to Pakistan with an Indonesian Passport, Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship AND no proof has been supplied he has EVER made any attempt to reinstate his American Citizenship.
Information that some of Obama’s relatives think he was born in KENYA because his mother could NOT get back to Hawaii as they would not let her on the airplane due to late stage pregnancy. Since she was 18 years old, he would NOT be an American citizen but a Kenyan citizen.
ETC.
All of these “rumors” may be untrue but if they are untrue, why has Obama NOT supplied sufficient proof that he is a U. S. Citizen? The probable answer is that he is a liar, and he will continue to lie until we nail him. Everyone I know can EASILY supply the requested information, but then again I don’t know anyone that was raised in Indonesia and has Muslim listed as his religion at the school he attended.
You can supply pressure by writing to YOUR STATE Governor, Attorney General etc. with the following:
Attorney General,
Michael B. Mukasey YOUR STATE’S SOS
U.S. Dept. of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW YOUR STATE’S AG
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Fax: (202) 307-6777
U.S. Dept. of Justice
Criminal Division
Attn: Matthew W. Friedrich, Acting Asst. AG
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20430-0001
Fax: (202) 514-9412
Subject: Objections to Senator Obama being placed on ballot in Florida (YOUR STATE) as Democratic Presidential nominee
Gentlemen:
I am a registered (YOUR STATE) (Dem-REPUB-IND) and a long time voter. According to the Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States
I respectfully request that the laws of the U.S. Constitution be enforced. Furthermore, please demand that the Democratic Presidential Nominee Senator Barrack Hussein Obama be required to provide (1) a certified copy of the vault Certificate of Birth; (2) a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance he would have had to take between the ages of 18-21 to regain his U.S. citizenship after leaving Indonesia; and (3) verify that he registered in the selective service (he would have had to do this within six (6) months of turning eighteen (18).
Before Senator Obama is named on a (YOUR STATE) state ballot for the office of President, the foregoing documents must be produced. Unless Sen. Obama produces evidence to the contrary, I believe he:
• Is not a natural-born citizen; and/or
• Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
• Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.
Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers:
• Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada?
• School records list Obama as a citizen of Indonesia. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?
• Explanation of the names he has used: Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, & Barry Dunham.
• Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama,
As Attorney Generals of the U.S. and (YOUR STATE), Secretary of State of (YOUR STATE), and(USE IF YOU SEND TO YOUR GOVERNOR) Governor of (your state) , I request that you investigate the possible forgery of a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth and require Sen. Obama to answer whether he was ever a citizen of Indonesia and further require him to submit all documentation that led up to him being a U.S. citizen. Senator Obama has refused and/or failed to provide proof of his birth as a natural born U.S. citizen. A falsified birth certificate has circulated the Internet and has been proven by experts to be a forgery. Additionally, a lawsuit has been filed against Sen. Obama, Berg v. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083 regarding his qualifications to become President of the U.S.
As a natural citizen of the U.S. and a dedicated American patriot, I am adamant for the security of our nation that we choose our elected officials as required in our federal and state constitutions and laws.
Please require that Senator Obama provide absolute proof that he is a natural born citizen of the U.S. before his name is placed on the (YOUR STATE) state ballot for President of the United States. Thank you.
108 posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 12:15:22 AM by CaraM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2075005/posts
Maybe it’s Obama’s fault, he did say he was a muslim on national TV. The REPORTER had to correct him. WTF? When does a reporter ever prompt a republican to correct something?
This fool has no clue about what he is talking about. According to Muslim law if your father was a Muslim you are a Muslim CHECK.
Also to be a Muslim one need only pray in a Mosque once and proclaim himself a Muslim. Since Obama’s books talk about his days in a Muslim school as a child CHECK AGAIN.
The fool that wrote this ought to do some research so he would have to be so scared of reality.
Good article, thanks.
There you have it folks. We rubes are believing in all the email chain letters, gossip blogs, and hate-filled websites. We need gatekeepers to hold our hands and tell us what we need to hear. It's for the greater good, you know.
Blaming this on the internet supposes everyone in America has total campaign amnesia.
And, if he is NOT Muslim now, he's apostate.
Looks like a “lose/lose” situation to me. I've lived in Islamic countries, and studied Islam, and taught geography here in public schools, and so taught about Islam, too. Doesn't make me an expert, but I've got more demonstrable facts I can show than this writer, who apparently thinks his opinion is fact.
I just wish the MSM / DBM would take some time to educate the American Sheeple.
I can dream can't I? Ha!!
“Do you have a clue what the surprises are? “
No, what I think of as “October surprises” are not just scandal accusations that are delayed until October, but instead are more of a manufactured attack on the Republican that the media dumps in the closing days of the election when it is too late to deal with it.
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