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Has the countdown begun? (Former Chief of General Staff of Pakistan Army threatens nuclear war)
nation.com.pk ^ | September 21, 2008 | SHAHID AZIZ

Posted on 09/20/2008 6:18:09 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Will US physical entry in to Pakistan actually help in suppressing the resistance to occupation of Afghanistan and bring peace to the region? If yes, let's do it. However, it will only radicalize the population, leaving no other option with Washington but to declare Pakistan a 'rogue state'. The premise for US entry is that Pakistan Army is either incapable or unwilling to 'clean up the mess'.

Then, does the US Army plan to do this in conjunction with Pakistan Army or in spite of it? It should now be abundantly clear that joint US-Pakistan ground operations in side our borders are not acceptable to this nation and its armed forces. Any other idea is wishful. Even aerial targeting is now not tolerable. We cannot, any more, continue to pretend that this was not happening. We were slowly and helplessly maneuvered in to such a compromising position that we even owned up some of their strikes killing many innocent citizens, and paid heavily in reprisals. Has this seven years' strategy made any headway?

Today, the US Dept of Defense and the Pentagon accept that they are not winning, but given more of the same they could do it. Afghanistan is not controllable, and they insist that if the war were spread into Pakistan, peace would prevail; Vietnam logic? Have the consequences been forgotten?

Will this spread be controllable? Will the operations then extend into Peshawar and beyond? How many more men and dollars will be pumped in, and coffins pumped out? Is there an end in sight? Does this make sense? Is anyone listening? Hello!

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.com.pk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; globaljihad; gwot; india; jihad; jihadpropaganda; nuclearblackmail; pakistan; pakistaninukes; propaganda
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1 posted on 09/20/2008 6:18:09 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hello!


2 posted on 09/20/2008 6:20:36 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Time to grab the Pak nukes.


3 posted on 09/20/2008 6:21:50 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Is anyone listening?”

No.


4 posted on 09/20/2008 6:22:20 PM PDT by frankjr (Stand up Chuck, let 'em see ya!!! Ohhhhhh.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m going to sleep so well once Obamma is in the Oval Office. I know he’ll be able to go over and “unconditionally” sit down and talk to these guys.


5 posted on 09/20/2008 6:23:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (What's good for Enron is good for Fannie and Freddie! I want some convictions! NOW!!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Cindy

ping.


6 posted on 09/20/2008 6:24:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; SevenofNine; TigerLikesRooster

Ping.


7 posted on 09/20/2008 6:25:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mr. Aziz, do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?


8 posted on 09/20/2008 6:28:20 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The war against Global Jihad (let’s stop calling it “War on Terrorism”, it fools no one) can only be won if the Jihadis have no sanctuary anywhere.


9 posted on 09/20/2008 6:28:59 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good lord..where is the barf alert? Isn’t it typical, that this Islamist writer would publish this rubbish in a liberal rag!!


10 posted on 09/20/2008 6:30:00 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Jet Jaguar
every disaster raining down all at the same time. Not just on U.S., though.
11 posted on 09/20/2008 6:33:00 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The solution is obvious and is being implemented. We form an formal miltary alliance with India, install missile defense, let the Pakis go radical, and then let India take them apart with US air cover. Game over.

That is what will happen under McCain/Palin. Won’t even get into what will happen under the Meccachurian candidate...


12 posted on 09/20/2008 6:33:11 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Free ThinkerNY
As I have often said, how would you fee if tomorrow you woke up and;

1. Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, Russia, China, Pakistan, Muslim Terrorists, Jailed prisoners, Illegal Aliens, Liberals, Socialists and Communists were ALL GONE! Vanished! The world might actually start to look and feel better!

13 posted on 09/20/2008 6:44:31 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: piytar

That’s pretty much what the author says is happening.


14 posted on 09/20/2008 6:45:40 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: piytar

That’s pretty much what the author says is happening. But, of course, he sees it as the problem not the solution.


15 posted on 09/20/2008 6:46:20 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: OCC

When did the DoD announce we were losing in Afghanistan?


16 posted on 09/20/2008 6:46:52 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Jet Jaguar; All

OH OH

Thanks for the ping JJ it going get realllyyyyy hairy


17 posted on 09/20/2008 6:50:31 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: xkaydet65
When did the DoD announce we were losing in Afghanistan?

It was The Nation magazine, I'm pretty sure Obama has a gratis lifetime subscription!

18 posted on 09/20/2008 6:51:44 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Under such multi dimensional threat, we would have no option but to avoid a conventional engagement and open up with the nuclear card. A declaration that an attack by India would be considered an attack also by its ally the US and anyone else who cares to join the game, and therefore all US interests in range would be engaged. A nuclear warning shot in the Bay of Bengal, across India, demonstrating our circular range capacity would be most appropriate. You don't mess with a nuclear power and get away with it."

"This or something like this is what our enemies might be contemplating. The US cannot continue its domination of the region without subjugating the Pakistani nation. A nuclear Pakistan cannot now be subdued through political means alone; therefore some violent methods will have to be employed to end the game. May Allah grant us the wisdom and strength to handle these issues. This is not a time for political bickering and infighting. Perhaps this is the most critical period of our history, a time when we need to be giving strength to each other; a time to hold hands. We have never been confronted directly by an enemy this size. Our internal cohesion is critical to our survival. We have no friends around who would come and put things right for us. Lets' do it."

Well, he ends with a bang. Hard to wade through this thing, but the last line somehow reminds me of an Obama/Nike campaign slogan.

19 posted on 09/20/2008 6:53:20 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If Pakistan will not destroy Al-Qaeda inside their OWN country, it leaves America no choice but to perform operations inside Pakistan, or at least Waziristan. If Pakistan threatens retaliation again, we must, we must, see it as they are giving Al-Qaeda a safehaven, and they must be considered a target, not an ally. It would be easier if the Pakistani military joins with America in operations, but if not, that can not stop our destuction of Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda poses too much of a threat to give them any safehaven anywhere in the world.


20 posted on 09/20/2008 6:58:20 PM PDT by FutureRocketMan (Israel past, Israel now, Israel future)
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