Si, Mohamed Obama!
Posted on 09/13/2008 5:09:22 PM PDT by ricks_place
New McCain ad blames Obama and Democrats for death of immigration overhaul effort.
(CNN) – John McCain’s campaign is running a Spanish language ad in battleground states that blames Barack Obama and Senate Democrats for the failure of attempts to overhaul the nation’s immigration laws — even though the Republican nominee and his Democratic counterpart cast identical votes in the key Senate showdowns on that issue last year
“Obama and his congressional allies say they are on the side of immigrants. But are they?” asks the announcer in the 30-second spot, “Which Side Are They On?”
“The press reports that their efforts were 'poison pills' that made immigration reform fail,” he continues. “The result: No guest worker program. No path to citizenship. No secure borders. No reform. Is that being on our side? Obama and his Congressional allies ready to block immigration reform, but not ready to lead.”
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Si, Mohamed Obama!
Crap. And things were going so well.
The title alone makes me laugh.
McCain is on to something. The May Day demonstrations organized by the Democratic-allied Service Employees union destroyed the image of the majority of immigrants who come to work, save, and educate their kids.
I'm voting Palin, and the other guy! LOL
Obama only wants his Muslim terrorist friends allowed in this country so they can join up with his domestic terrorist friends (e.g Ayers, Dohrn...) to blow stuff up.
Donde esta el autobus?
Now, this is bold...
this should sit well with forum members as an unpleasant dose of the policy-reality of McCain-elect.
bold? I guess you could call it that. It certainly takes some nerve.
This is the second phase of the news media attack on McCain.
They are now targeting the base.
I bet you see stories out the follow week from the newsmedia saying that McCain really didn’t want Palin, but Lieberman, or that Palin has a cousin sister-in-law’s son who is gay.
The only chance the bad guys have is to divide the base.
The stepford voters won’t bat an eye.
But McCain is the one who put out the ad. So if anybody is trying to divide the base, it would be McCain.
The brilliance of September will fade in October if the new ads are indicative of the coming message.
McCain can’t help himself and mainstream America does not trust him on this issue.
Don’t be an idiot. Your choice is McCain/Palin or Obama. Choose ye this day....
I’m the idiot? Am I the one putting out ads reminding people I’m soft on illegal immigration?
Well, good for them! (this time)
McCain better not overplay his hand with the base. The name McShamnesty didn’t come out of nowhere.
elect mccain/palin and stop this stuff after the election
I could have sworn I saw something here on FR that said that Bill Clinton told Obama to start talking about McCain and immigration in order to divide up the conservative base which would offset the Palin support and enthusiasm.
Does anyone else remember reading that?
It’s a McCain add, that means no one to blame but McCain himself.
How does this take away Obama's biggest weapon?
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I think McCain is being proactive and taking away Obama’s biggest weapon.
I could have sworn I saw something here on FR that said that Bill Clinton told Obama to start talking about McCain and immigration in order to divide up the conservative base which would offset the Palin support and enthusiasm.
Does anyone else remember reading that?
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Yes.
And all this ad does is plant a seed of doubt in Hispanics who are not in the base, are voters (citizens), and pro Life, but facing peer pressure to vote Dem.
That’s all it’s intended to do, and it’s in Spanish and was not intended for the base.
“Read the thread about Barone’s piece on McCain getting inside Obama’s OODA loop. Then go back and look at this in that context.”
If GOP claims mantle of being better at natinal security, that means they know how-to-do warfare.
This election IS warfare, in a sense. Chaos is our friend.
Observe, orient, decide, act (from Barone article cited).
Choose and prepare the battlefield. Know your enemy.
Daily news cycle. Define your opponent. Sway undecideds. Motivate your own voters to vote. Etc.
Nov. 4 is very important.
Mind you, I am going off of something I read here on FR and I thought it was classic Clinton.
No you would be an idiot to help elect the one who is for full blown illegal immigration, i.e. Barack Obama. The choice at this point is "A" or "B". Sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich will not give you a choice "C".
Exactly. So why is McCain the one bringing it up? All this is doing is saving Obama money.
Just when I was beginning to think I could tolerate the guy. What? does he like malaise or something? Can we just switch him and Palin now? By the way, has anybody heard where SHE stands on this issue?
No, there are still a lot of dopes who would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Am I the one putting out an ad reminding people that I am also for full blown illegal immigration?
I wish that somebody would get on America's side on this issue.
The Hispanic vote went for Hillary in the primaries and McCain definitely earned the right to court their vote. He’s done way more for the Hispanic community in 26 years as an Arizona Representative / Senator than Barack Obama ever did for anyone. The fact that the Spanish-language channels didn’t even carry his acceptance speech is a complete slap in the face to the Hispanic community.
... and it’s in Spanish and was not intended for the base.You make it sound like some dirty magazines found in daddy's bottom drawer.
Of course we know he's just pandering and really doesn't believe in amnesty. Yeah, right.
I'd like to know what else he doesn't want the base to hear.
I feel like I’m dealing with dumb and dumber here. All the positives from the past several weeks and you two go into stupid mode.
Exactly why this is not the time to go stupid and start straining at gnats.
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I’d like to know what else he doesn’t want the base to hear.
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No, you wouldn’t.
Everyone knows this is what it is. He says he’s going to support enforcement first. No one believes him, but the truth of the matter everyone CAN believe is Obama is not even *saying* enforcement first.
You vote for the rightmost viable candidate available. And move on. Immigration isn’t going to define the election. That’s very clear now.
Well we don’t even know Sarah Palin’s stance on the immigration issue at all and saying nothing sure as hell won’t win my vote.
Everyone knows this is what it is.We do.
So whatever he wants to campaign on is ok with you as long as he gets elected.
Conservatives need to make him work at least a little bit to get their vote. This is the only time there is any leverage with him. Say it now or say it in 2012. Of course by that time Amnesty will be history.
This ad matches up with how he really feels on immigration. He added the enforcement first words to placate ( read pander to ) Conservatives. Now he campaigns in a foreign language with no mention of enforcement first and hopes the base doesn't notice.
So who is dumb here?
Notice that CNN could not even get the first line in without “fact finding” that McCain voted the same as BO. They usually do no “fact finding” in the entire article at all if it is about BO. Actually, they usually also add on a bunch of negatives about Republicans / Conservatives in EVERY news item. Even the weather and sports!
Kung Fu say:
Faint heart not win fair maiden
En Espanol !!
Damn straight. It's no-nonsense, rock-ribbed Conservatives like us who forced McCain to pick someone like Palin.
I'll be damned if I'm just going to sit around and watch him f*ck this up.
Someone ping that asshole McCain and tell him to pull the ad!
Forget it. The next time one of his telemarketers calls asking for money I'll tell him or her myself.
We know that whichever guy wins, they will sign an immigration bill that comes to their desk.
Of course, Bush would ALSO have signed a bill. So nothing’s changed.
EXCEPT that, if Obama wins, he gets replaced in the Senate with another pro-immigrant liberal democrat.
If McCain wins, we might well replace him with an anti-immigrant conservative.
And if not, if McCain wins, at least he won’t be in the Senate to put together coalitions. And he might have coattails to keep more republicans who oppose immigration in the house and senate.
So yes, we’d be better off if our ticket was Thompson/Palin, or Romney/Palin. But I don’t think anybody here was under the misconception that somehow McCain had changed his position.
However, you want to cause trouble? then ask them what Palin’s position is on immigration. Because so far as I can tell, she’s never really talked about it. So I don’t have any idea what her views are. I bet Alaska doesn’t have a lot of trouble with day laborers standing around the 7-11s.
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