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Knox hit with gas shortage
knoxnews.com ^ | September 12, 2008 | Bill Brewer

Posted on 09/12/2008 3:15:20 AM PDT by don-o

Knoxville-area drivers are seeing more bags on gasoline pumps today as a petroleum shortage spreading throughout the Southeast hits local gas stations, groceries and convenience stores.

Refinery outages along the Gulf Coast in the wake of Hurricane Gustav have created severe shortages, causing retailers like Weigel's to scramble to keep their pumps flowing. And Hurricane Ike is bearing down on Texas, drawing a bead on North America's petroleum manufacturing capital of Houston and portending a worst-case scenario for dealers and consumers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; gasprices
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1 posted on 09/12/2008 3:15:20 AM PDT by don-o
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2 posted on 09/12/2008 3:18:55 AM PDT by don-o (Avoid the rush. Donate to FR today. Do the RIGHT thing.)
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To: don-o

Just heard news that gas will be limited to $10 or 10 gallons (can’t remember) and prices will go up today.


3 posted on 09/12/2008 3:22:32 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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Which will produce panic buying. Where are you?


4 posted on 09/12/2008 3:24:24 AM PDT by don-o (Avoid the rush. Donate to FR today. Do the RIGHT thing.)
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One north Knox County station owner told me yesterday evening that it was going up $1 over night. He’s a BP station owner and said he was changing the price after he closed up last night. Gas was 1.59 a gallon then. I haven’t been out this morning to see but I know he’s right. BTW no surprise Weigles {in the picture} sold out. They have the best gas in the county and usually about the cheapest except for Racetrack or Raceway.


5 posted on 09/12/2008 3:26:51 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: don-o

All the more reason why we should be drilling off shore in places other than the Gulf of Mexico, and we should be building refineries somewhere other than in the Gulf states.


6 posted on 09/12/2008 3:29:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: cva66snipe

1.59? What year?


7 posted on 09/12/2008 3:32:21 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: cva66snipe

Our local radio (Johnson City) reported about a 20 cent rise to $3.80 overnight locally. That’s why I looked for the article


8 posted on 09/12/2008 3:32:51 AM PDT by don-o (Avoid the rush. Donate to FR today. Do the RIGHT thing.)
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To: don-o

Someone posted the same info regarding FL yesterday....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2080238/posts
I have to get gas this morning, we’ll see what happens (I’m on LI).


9 posted on 09/12/2008 3:33:34 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (NObama is the face of evil.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Man I’m not awake yet 3.59 LOL sorry about that. Some places around here were 3.69 yesterday too.


10 posted on 09/12/2008 3:34:38 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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Oil Refineries MUST BE SHUT DOWN in front of a Hurricane.

The short of this: BLAME THE ENVIROMENTAL WACKOS. They are pleased that drilling on ANWR and other places has not been opened up, and they would oppose the building of new refineries.

Please tell your liberal friends how the ENVIRONMENTALISTS play a role in this...

The sad news is that, until recently, there were no new refineries built in the United States in over 50 years.

I think the new one was built in South Dakota or Minnesota or somewhere.

The United States runs almost at 90% to 95% of the US Refinery Capacity.

More than likely, the combination of both Hurricane Gustav and Hurricane Ike are to blame. Gustav also caused refineries to shut down, but there was probably enough supply in the pipelines/storage to not cause problems.

Now, another Hurricane, so close after Gustav, is making this worse.

The US can import gasoline, but there has to be foresite of at least a week or two on that, and that is normally imported into New York City or Philadelphia on the East Coast.

The Midwest is pretty much dependent on the Gulf Coast oil refineries...

11 posted on 09/12/2008 3:35:33 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Our local radio (Johnson City) reported about a 20 cent rise to $3.80 overnight locally. That’s why I looked for the article

Knoxville is where the tank farm is. It does seem strange. I won't be going out till this afternoon to check. But my source has been highly reliable in the past though.

12 posted on 09/12/2008 3:38:31 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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There is good news-bad news with Hurricane Ike.

The bad news is that the storm is so big there are tropical storm watches up for places as far East as Baton Rouge/New Orleans.

They extend Southward beyond Corpus Christi. That leaves very few refineries open -- as I believe they must be shut in for even a Tropical Storm (a pipe breaking or other problem in strong winds can cause a catastrophic explosion.

The Good News is that it appears Hurricane IKE will not be much more than a Category 2 storm, and thus damage to a significant number of refineries around Houston, Texas City, Beaumont, Port Arthur, and also Lake Charles [Louisiana] should be minimal [I hope].

This is a good reason to PRAY for our friends in Texas (and Louisiana) to be spared this storm.

Of course, the Louisiana Superport has probably been shut down this week. That offloads crude oil, but I imagine it can also offload gasoline.

So once the storm passes, that should be back online.

Finally, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve can be used to get the WORKING REFINERIES back in business as soon as possible even if there is a shortage of crude oil (from both imports cut off and shutting in Gulf Coast oil production).

I think the numbers for oil production lost is about 1 million barrels a day -- give or take two to three hundred thousand barrels...

13 posted on 09/12/2008 3:42:50 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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It is where the gasoline comes from for the Tank farm that matters... I believe you would be dependent on Gulf Coast Gasoline that is refined.


14 posted on 09/12/2008 3:44:12 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: All
Time to call your local Congress-critter to DRILL HERE/DRILL NOW about ANWR. Need to get more oil refineries built elsewhere in the country.

Need to start drilling for oil on the East Coast (Carolinas, Georgia, Florida Gulf Coast) as well as the West Coast (California offshore moratorium needs to be overridden).

The city of Long Beach, California recently enacted legislation (that Gov. Arnold Terminator had to sign) to start drilling in Long Beach harbor. This means big bucks to the City of Long Beach.

15 posted on 09/12/2008 3:47:04 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: thackney

Comments???


16 posted on 09/12/2008 3:48:05 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: cva66snipe

3.59 is about the average price/gal here in central Misssissippi also.


17 posted on 09/12/2008 3:50:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: topher
It is where the gasoline comes from for the Tank farm that matters... I believe you would be dependent on Gulf Coast Gasoline that is refined.

Yep that's what started the problem. Ours comes from the Gulf. Colonial Pipe line IIRC.

18 posted on 09/12/2008 3:50:46 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: topher
Oops!

... but there has to be foresite foresight of at least a week or two on that, ....

19 posted on 09/12/2008 3:51:43 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Many stations around us here in Houston are running out of gasoline as people prepare for the storm.

Some refineries were still down or on reduced runs from the previous storm. Many were backing down and lowering production rates in anticpation of Ike.

Direct Hit: Hurricane Ike Zeros in on Facilities and Rigs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2080064/posts

Energy industry reprises actions taken for Gustav
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2079868/posts


20 posted on 09/12/2008 3:57:04 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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