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Nanny State rolls on. Locally, in Clark County, Washington, it began as helmets for kids under 16. Now, anyone not wearing a helmet faces a $50 fine, sure to increase as city coffers need more.

While helmets are a good idea, do we desire Police to be granted power to confiscate personal property if you don't follow state mandates?

1 posted on 09/11/2008 9:19:44 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: DakotaRed

No. We don’t.


2 posted on 09/11/2008 9:20:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: DakotaRed

Only an idiot would ride a bike without a helmet.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 9:20:52 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: DakotaRed

The kids will discover the advantage of riding a stolen bike .


6 posted on 09/11/2008 9:30:00 PM PDT by kbennkc (What passes for optimism is most often an intellectual error)
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To: DakotaRed


Dont wuwwy, Obambi, you can keep your bike.
7 posted on 09/11/2008 9:30:24 PM PDT by beagleone (McCain: He had me at "Hanoi.")
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To: DakotaRed

Although head trauma is one of the leading causes of liberalism, I still think helmet use should be vountary.


9 posted on 09/11/2008 9:32:55 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: DakotaRed

The Founding Fathers would be appalled.


10 posted on 09/11/2008 9:33:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DakotaRed

Helmets do not increase safety. When kids wear helmets, they perform more dangerous stunts. This increases their chances of getting injured, even killed. The helmet provides no protection to the kid’s neck, no protection to the kid’s face, and little to the head.

People are smart, and change their behavior in response to their perception of risk and reward. Change the perception of risk/reward, they change their behavior to compensate. So, if a vehicle operator is unimpressed by the thought of sudden death or a life of paralysis, do you think that he will be affected by theft of a bike, which was bought by Dad anyways?


16 posted on 09/11/2008 9:45:30 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: Gabz

Ping


17 posted on 09/11/2008 9:54:58 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: DakotaRed
I wear a bike helmet in case I fall off and get brained. It's my choice.

At the same time I'm sick to death of government officials dictating my life to me.

Straighten out your own life, then come tell me how I ought to live mine.

Checkmate.

20 posted on 09/11/2008 9:59:42 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: DakotaRed

Back in the days when there was no such thing as a bike helmet, all us kids rode bicycles like they were extensions of our body. Sometimes we would hit a rut and go over the handle bars. Never did I hear of any kid hitting their head. Like cats we always learned how to land on our feet. If we wore a helmet, we would have been less nimble.

A helmet hinders the rider’s head to move in fast action to look at ones surroundings for trouble. A helmet can cause ones head to overheat which can affect mental alertness. The sound of the wind hissing through the helmet holes also interferes with hearing.

Helmets are just a sneaky way to limit the number of kids riding bicycles. A kid on a bicycle makes the motorist too nervous. Put helmets on the kids and you take the kids off the bicycles.


35 posted on 09/11/2008 10:59:58 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: DakotaRed

Bicycle helmets, seat belts... our government truly has nothing better to do? You dial 911 and are put on hold, but damn it if those kids don’t wear their helmets, they’re there to put and end to that for sure.

Those who don’t respect the citizens rights to be left alone, are destroying the very respect they will want count on some day.

The government has no business enforcing this nonsense.


36 posted on 09/11/2008 11:52:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: DakotaRed
We don't want to seize bikes...

That's true. Bikes don't bring squat at the auctions. They'd rather seize late model cars from people they catch with a roach in the ashtray. There's much more money to be made there.

41 posted on 09/12/2008 3:13:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: DakotaRed

I and my family always, and I mean always ride with helmets. I make the law. However, the state should not make that law nor should they seize private property.

I have a friend who had the same rules in his family. His brother died many years ago in a cycling accident so he has more reason. One day he saw his 15 year old daughter riding a few miles from home with some friends. Stopped, put her bike in the trunk and said “see you at home.” Then he drove away.


44 posted on 09/12/2008 5:41:35 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: DakotaRed

After reading some of the comments here, I wonder how I even attained adulthood and not living out the rest of my life incompassatated by a head injury since I didn’t wear a helmet when I was young. My injuries on a bike were normally on my knees or the palms of my hand or my elbows (or combinations thereof). We can’t wrap everyone up in bubble wrap at the dictate of the state.


49 posted on 09/12/2008 7:43:05 AM PDT by Godzilla (The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.)
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To: DakotaRed

Meanies at work.

This reminds me of a time nearly two years ago. Our Guardian Angels team patrolled a music festival over a November weekend. Toward the end of the festival, there was a shrieking of a little kid, just behind the festival tents. BatBob and I went to check it out.

An officious Maori Warden had grabbed this kid’s bike and was trying to confiscate it, saying it didn’t belong to the kid, that he’d stolen it. The kid was nearly beside himself: he was only nine or ten, and he was crying, and trying to explain that the bike was his. It was obvious to everyone that the kid was telling the truth, and a huge crowd began to form.

It was about as close to a lynching as I’d ever seen. So BatBob and I started to do crowd control. I can’t quite remember how it resolved — I think the kid’s mum somehow got involved. Anyrate the kid ended up riding away, terrified.

The crowd disbursed, and the meanie Warden — rather than being grateful for not getting lynched — stalked around haughtily as if he had been perfectly right to try to seize the kid’s bike.

I felt like throwing him bodily off the festival grounds, but kept my counsel. What a creep!

Once you give these petty tyrants a little bit of authority they just can’t wait to exercise it. Even on innocent little kids.

That is what is happening in this article.


58 posted on 09/12/2008 9:35:21 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DakotaRed

I hope they don’t decide to pass a mandatory condom law.


73 posted on 09/12/2008 11:54:36 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DakotaRed

Enforcing helmet laws exacerbates the shortage of available transplant organs and interferes with the process of evolution by natural selection.


77 posted on 09/16/2008 12:33:40 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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