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Russia to seek Georgia arms embargo
News.com.au ^ | September 10, 2008

Posted on 09/09/2008 1:10:45 PM PDT by Schnucki

RUSSIA today submitted a draft resolution in the UN security council demanding an arms embargo against Georgia and called for an informal council meeting with representatives of South Ossetia and Abkhazia at the UN next month.

"It is in everybody's interest to have an arms embargo against Georgia," Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said while conceding that some council members, particularly the United States, were likely to oppose the move.

"Strong opposition from some members of the security council, particularly the United States, can be expected. But we believe it was absolutely necessary to make that political statement by introducing this draft resolution," Mr Churkin said.

He said that Georgia "has been arming very aggressively" over the past years, with its military budget jumping from $US18 million ($22.07 million) to $US900 million ($1.1 billion) over the past six years.

"We believe it (the budget) was put to very bad use as they (the Georgians) attacked South Ossetia" last month, Mr Churkin said.

"Proper consequences need to be drawn from that."

He said Moscow believes "some countries are taking active efforts in order to start rearming Georgia and are allocating large sums of money" for that purpose.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: armstrade; geopolitics; georgia; russia; un
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Is there anybody on the security council who might veto this? ;)
1 posted on 09/09/2008 1:10:45 PM PDT by Schnucki
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To: MarMema; TigersEye; indcons

Ping.


2 posted on 09/09/2008 1:12:08 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Schnucki
Gee, we ought to ask Obama. Hahaha.
3 posted on 09/09/2008 1:13:15 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Schnucki

Translation: “Georgia put up too much of a fight when we invaded. Please take their arms away so we can more easily make Georgia a satellite state again.”


4 posted on 09/09/2008 1:15:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Army Air Corps

Events over the summer would seem to validate every penny spent on arms, eh Mr. Churkinoff?


5 posted on 09/09/2008 1:17:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: Schnucki
He said Moscow believes "some countries are taking active efforts in order to start rearming Georgia and are allocating large sums of money" for that purpose.

I certainly hope so. If "some countries" don't then private parties should.

6 posted on 09/09/2008 1:19:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: Lasha; Jeff Head

Get a load of this...


7 posted on 09/09/2008 1:21:14 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Schnucki

The new definition of chutzpah.


8 posted on 09/09/2008 1:22:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Schnucki
Russia: "We demand that Georgia remain defenseless so that we can continue to brutalize them at our every whim and take over the entire country whenever we want."

I believe the USA can veto this monstrosity.

9 posted on 09/09/2008 1:31:09 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (tot)
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To: Schnucki

Dear General Dynamics, Boeing, Raytheon, Northrup Grumman, and Lockheed Martin,

I would like to order some early Christmas presents for some of my closest friends. Please send the Presidents of Georgia, Latvia, Ukraine, The Czech Republic, Poland, and Moldavia your maximum excess production capacity of advanced military hardware including subs, tanks, fighter aircraft, etc. Make sure they get a lot of the good stuff like TOW’s, Stingers, Patriots, Predators, and those F16D fighters.

Sincerely,
George Bush

P.S. Charge it


10 posted on 09/09/2008 1:43:21 PM PDT by Sparticus (Libs, they're so open minded that their brains leaked out.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The Georgian armed forces were rolled over. They had no chance after the Russians pushed them back and rolled over Gori. All the Georgians could do was pull back to Tbilisi in a mad panic. In the mad panic they left lots of armor and artillery behind. The Russians had limited objectives in Georgia. The taking of Tbilisi and the whole of Georgia was never on the cards. It would have taken hundreds of thousands of troops to occupy and hold Georgia as a satellite state.


11 posted on 09/09/2008 1:47:29 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Sorry, let me restate that:

“We captured a good chunk of Georgia’s arms, so we don’t want them to be able to rearm before we move to take over the country.”

Just like many knew Hitler wouldn’t stop with the Sudetenland, just like we knew Saddam wasn’t going to stop with Kuwait, I don’t think Putin will stop with that little chunk of land he just got.


12 posted on 09/09/2008 2:12:23 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Lurker

Oops...Ivan, you’re too late.


13 posted on 09/09/2008 2:21:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Schnucki

The U.S ambassador should turn his gaze towards Irans ambassador and veto russias idea of an arms embargo in Georgia.


14 posted on 09/09/2008 2:24:03 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Sparticus; Lasha; Sal

That was a great post. I loved it, thank you!!


15 posted on 09/09/2008 9:11:18 PM PDT by MarMema (regime change in Russia!!)
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To: Schnucki
3800 troops in each region is a far cry from the original 1500 agreed to in the peace treaty.

They sure don't like to sign anything and actually feel like they have to follow through, do they?

16 posted on 09/09/2008 9:13:36 PM PDT by MarMema (regime change in Russia!!)
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To: Tommyjo
Some of the Russian Nationalists wanted ALL of Georgia overrun by armor. All the way to the Turkish Border. They even made public political statements in the Russian Federation Council and Stated Duma calling for it. Check out the posted link below. Russia has changed dramatically the past decade. What was valid back in your day is no applicable. Russian Nationalist now rule. Also checkout Tailgunner Joe's link to the Kommersant article.

Invasion’s ideologues: Ultra-nationalists join the Russian mainstream

17 posted on 09/09/2008 9:35:54 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Stated Duma should read State Duma.


18 posted on 09/09/2008 9:38:07 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: TigersEye; Jeff Head; MarMema; RogerFGay
There are already scattered reports / statements by some Russian military admitting that if not for the aerial support, they would have been doomed. Local TV published an intercepted conversation between a Russian officer and someone from Russia (cannot really attest to credibility of this) stating that casualties on Russian side have been deflated dramatically and they stand around 2000. the conversation also suggested that if not for the aerial support, they would have been killed. Another story I heard was some publication in Russia purported to publish an interview of unidentified officer, claiming that Russian army could have been crushed completely if not for special Chechen units (the same appears to be supported by information published on Kavkazcenter) and again, aerial support. Another story, officially published even in Russia suggests that Georgian special unit managed to take on the vehicle chain where the head of the 58th army was, and he nearly escaped the death by running like rabbit...
19 posted on 09/10/2008 1:57:45 AM PDT by Lasha
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To: MarMema; justa-hairyape; Lasha
I was about to ridicule this Churkinov guy for appealing to the UN when he's got to know we're going to veto his BS. But of course this is to set up some quasi-legal SOUNDING basis for a totally illegal series of invasions to come.

OTOH some good could come of this attempt. The UN used to be the place Communist filth railed against freedom. Then it expanded to Islamofascist pigs doing the same. Now the two forces are allied against everything free and right in the world. Maybe this will get us out of that phony baloney institution and it will collapse in on itself.

3800 troops in each region is a far cry from the original 1500 agreed to in the peace treaty. They sure don't like to sign anything and actually feel like they have to follow through, do they?

Perhaps the kindest thing one could say about these Russians is they are liars. Fortunately, the world sees them for that--except for the sparkling examples of HamAss, Iran, Cuba and Venezuela. Good luck with that role call of supporters, Pooty.

Justa, thank you for that terrific link. I printed it to read over again. It's very clear what they're trying to do and I think we're going to be in a race between their economic system blowing to hell in time for the Russian people to put the skids on these vile barbarians and the barbarians taking more territory and exciting the atavistic slobbering of the people for power and blood.

It's a race we'd better win and/or we'd better put the skids on the barbarians. I hope to God we're rearming the Georgians to the teeth and that we'll stand for the Ukraine as well.

Lasha, I hope more reports come out and more are confirmed of Russian "might" being quite exaggerated.

Another story I heard was some publication in Russia purported to publish an interview of unidentified officer, claiming that Russian army could have been crushed completely if not for special Chechen units (the same appears to be supported by information published on Kavkazcenter) and again, aerial support.

Aerial support is easy to understand. I'm wondering why the special Chechen units were so important to the outcome. We know of their extreme brutality and bestiality, but I'm wondering why the Russian troops couldn't carry the water. Is it because they were less than willing conscripts? Did some of them actually have principles? Are they just poorly trained and not too good while the Georgians were motivated and good? Very interesting to consider.

20 posted on 09/10/2008 5:40:55 AM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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