Posted on 09/06/2008 5:22:01 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
"Organizers of the Republican convention demanded that a group of young Republicans take down their "Build The Fence" signs, a reference to a border fence to fight illegal immigration, while at the Xcel Center last night."
This particular one kind of reminded me of the Reagan guy walking around at the 1976 Jerry Ford RNC Convention with a big "Kissingers Loves Kremlin" sandwich sign on both sides--but they could do nothing.
See the video. It may take a little time to load, be patient. Freepers might also crash it I would guess!
Looks like a couple of clean cut, sincere Young Republicans here being interviewed. WTH?! is what I thought.
They were told NO ANTI ILLEGAL ALIEN/PRO BORDER SECURITY signs...by Republican Organizers via a Secret Service agent. I extrapolate that the "Viva McCain" handwritten signs were not told to come down.
Judge for yourself if this is a sign of things to come. What do Freepers think about this? It strikes me as censorship, and also perhaps indicative of certain unrepentant viewpoints held by the Republican Party powers that be, perhaps??
bump! ping!
This is my big issue with McCain. I noticed the illegal issue was not addressed anytime during the convention. It wasn’t mentioned on the Saddleback forum either. This is the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
Well it certainly makes the GOP platform seem a bit less sincere.
It’s my stand or fall issue with Sarah Palin as well.
This will be conveniently brought up by the media quite a bit before the election. It will be an attempt to split the newly reconciled factions of the republican party. Lets save this fight until after we win.
You didn’t ping Rascal007?
Amnesty is coming.
They are sweeping this VERY CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY issue underneath the rug with the rest fo the elephant dung, if you ask me. We, the base, who are crystal clear on this border security problem, simply cannot have that IMHO.
I was wondering when the question of illegal immigration would show up.
The border - one of a few huge weaknesses with McCain, that he continually fails to address in his speeches. This is one of a few areas where he has definitely NOT worked for the American people, but rather against them (The McCain-Kennedy Immigration Reform Bill).
Just a little sign that not all is well in McCain’s head. On the other hand, not giving the lefties something to make an issue of makes sense.
No
He needs to be held NOW for his irresponsibility. He needs to own it and deal with it in a way that's acceptable with eh American people, Obama or NObama...
It is the only chance we have of taking our country back. If you are going to be nitpicky about this you will surely lose your battle. McCain and Palin will win, the momentum is growing so with or without you guys who are bitching here it will come about. Fight this battle later and don't be too quick to think Sarah is for Amenesty.
Quotes from the Young Republicans in the video:
"We have borders for a reason. If you cross those borders, it makes you a criminal."
"We are inviting criminals into our society."
But...but...I thought Juan McCain said they were all "God's children" just looking for a better life? /sarc
It strikes me as censorship...
Typical McQueeg. If you listen carefully, you will hear that the "control room" at the convention was involved.
We must never forget the last time that Juan tried to silence conservatives:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1601416/posts
I saved that fight till after Bush won and all I got was an attempt at amnesty and snide remarks to the effect that I knew what I was getting when I voted for him.
That’s not happening again.
So have you asked what position Sarah Palin takes on the illegal immigration issue?
Regardless of party this is an elite class issue that doesn't like paying what Americans want, and loves the ease and quiet serf(ish)ness of illegals. "They're SOOooo polite and quiet, and I asked our gated community's armed guards and they say there is never a problem with the little darlings!"
Are you suggesting that border security and the problem of millions of illegal aliens (who are criminals in violation of U.S. law) present on U.S. territory shouldn't be "a big deal"?
The fact that you immediately resort to calling us trolls is very telling.
But it is a clear supression of free speech.
How stupid!
These are YOUNG ENERGETIC CLEAN CUT REPUBLICAN KIDS--their footsoldiers they need-- who will be the grassroots POWER of the get out the vote movement on election day...manning phone banks, walking endlessly with door drops, rallying other students, putting up signs, driving old grannies to the polls (and getting high school credit!!;-) ....and the "Control Room" (which ever morons THEY were) at St. Paul, just crapped in these fine young kids' faces in my opinion. Is this stupid or WHAT!? I got more angry the more times I saw that video.
Probably done at the behest of Juan McAmnesty.
This is the standard pro-illegal alien/open borders conduct for which both McCain and GOP Big Tent RINO Central are notorious. It is but one of this cabal's problems along with a host of others (e.g., CFR, LOST, SPP/NAU and so forth).
McCain pissed away the conservative base and is desperately trying to reel us back in (see, e.g., the Palin appointment). He may recapture a few, but he isn't going to see much more than that.
I have not changed my mind on McCain. I simply don't trust him.
To the esteemed founder himself.
I guess they, these sharp, nice American kids,just went a little bit above and beyond "the script".
He won't be able to bury his head in the sand much longer as the issue is bound to come up during the debates with both sides vying for the Latino vote. McCain said he heard our cries and will protect our borders FIRST which is double talk. The fact the sign couldn't be displayed and he used the phrase "we're all God's children" when accepting his nomination speaks volumes. That same phrase was used when he was pushing amnesty and condemning Americans who opposed it.
Why would conservatives want to wait until after the elections, after giving up our sole bargaining piece (our votes)? And, with the next House and Senate elections two year away, that's more than enough time than is needed to bring forth amnesty and all sorts of other Socialist garbage. And it will take even less time if the Democrats hold the Congress.
Yes, it is stupid. There is only one God-fearing Christian running in the Presidential election, and it happens to be a woman.
Let's pray that God will use her mightily - especially since we men have failed so miserably in fighting the fight that she has undertaken.
Interesting turn of phrase when deriding our stance on illegals. Or, can't you see the irony?
--AmericanInTokyo, "troll" since February 1999
My thoughts exactly.
Serious, AmericaninTokyo is far from a troll.
One of several problems I have with McCain.
ELECT SARAH PALIN V.P.
Deborah is good too. I was thinking more of Esther. For such a time as this. Esther 4:14. We know what happened to her enemies.
I don’t believe for a minute that McCain would change his tune on this AFTER he’s elected, Palin, or no Palin.
We need to hold his feet to the fire NOW, and well into the future, at all times.
Why does everyone find this to be so unreasonable? Is it no longer in vogue to be concerned about these matters?
I drank the Bush kool-aid once upon a time (well, the Bush I and Dole variety as well...), but I can no longer do so.
I believe it is our DUTY to to hold these folks accountable. It is imperative to do so not only after the election, but BEFORE.
I drank the Bush Kool-Aid in 2004 on my first vote, but then I grew up and learned the error of my ways.
It is quite a video. Very telling IMHO. Conservatives cannot afford to be ostriches on this thing, lets force their hand and force it early. Before we get into debate season. They had better secure the base and disavow these types of shenanigans.
I already suggested to Freepers that if they are pinged to go to a McCain and particularly a Palin rally, that they bring not only those partisan signs, but also "BUILD THE FENCE" or "NO AMNESTY" and get up front and center. The ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION issue MUST be brought back into the campaign as strongly as it was there in January/February/March 2008 until McCain clinched the nomination and it got waylayed.
The republicans silence on illegal immigration at the convention speaks volumes. McCain will eventually grant amnesty to 20-30 million third world lawbreakers and their relatives thus forever changing America’s culture for the worse.
Agreed. His feet need to be held to the fire, Obama, NOBama, Bom-Bom-a-Bama, come what may...
I’m not sure it would be helpful for the Convention to be used to give the Dems any free ammunition to criticize the GOP. Policy is something to sort out in-house, and not with 40,000,000 people watching worldwide. There’s a time and place for cleaning dirty laundry, and that wasn’t at the Convention IMO.
The Wall is a great question to ask in every swing state at every rally and every photo opportunity, tho’ — that’s the perfect forum.
That’s how this foreigner sees it, anyrate. Take it for what that’s worth — which is about $0.02 worth of oxtail...
It ticks me off that they won't even bring it up - like we're stupid or something. Also, that they are apparently even censoring the issue.
The way I see it - the whole reason we got Palin was because HUGE numbers of us refused to cave in & say that we were going to vote for McCain because he was better than Obama. He knew he had to pick a conservative candidate to reign us in because he wasn't going to be able to do it himself and he NEEDS our votes!
I want to hear her views on the subject. I can put up with 4 years of him to get her - if she isn't just a red herring to get us off the subject. Sooner or later, she is going to have to answer this.
LOL... who’s the real troll here, shill boy?
This was NOT the place for people to promote their pet issues, however important.
This was a convention to nominate McCain/Palin, and show Republican unity.
The fact is, this Border Issue is clearly being swept under the rug by McCain and his top advisors and the "Control Room" of the RNC. But sooo many grassroots others of us here on FR and elsewhere--with wallets, walking shoes and voices--are just going to rip that rug off the floor and let illegal immigration again emerge as THE cutting edge issue of this campaign.We were told to shut up in 2000. Told to shut up in 2004. Not in 2008. Sorry.
Believe me, McCain/Palin can win on it. Obambi will be doomed to defeat if he makes his bed with illegals and sleeps with them, which he and his platform dictate they must do.
No Brainer.
Sheer Winner of an Issue....not to mention the right thing to do!
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