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Man Arrested Near Capitol After IED, Rifle, Ammunition Allegedly Found in Jeep
Foxnews ^ | 9/5/08 | Staff

Posted on 09/05/2008 10:41:15 AM PDT by txroadkill

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To: SecAmndmt
Just out of curiosity, what was the probable cause to search his vehicle? That was my first thought. Middle Eastern looking or multiple moonbat bumper stickers.
61 posted on 09/05/2008 12:24:58 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (That sharp pain to the LibRat's groin is called the Palin Effect.)
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To: Free State Four

Probably a Keith Olbermann disciple.


62 posted on 09/05/2008 12:29:05 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Joe 6-pack

Seems like puppy might alert if the Jeep had driven over freshly fertilized grass, or if another dog had whizzed on the tires. That said, it wouldn’t take a rocket surgeon to do a walk-around of a Jeep, inspecting the photons that bounced off of it, to find something suspicious.


63 posted on 09/05/2008 12:32:22 PM PDT by gundog (John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: green iguana

A rifle case is a rifle case. They hold rifles.


64 posted on 09/05/2008 12:39:27 PM PDT by xzins (Obama's Zero Experience: Not Close to McCain, Much Less that Sarah Palin)
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To: txroadkill

What’s his DUmmie screen name?


65 posted on 09/05/2008 12:42:57 PM PDT by libs_kma (NOBAMA. Keep the change)
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To: P-Marlowe

Good point.

But that intersection is within close enough proximity to a federal building that I’m fairly certain that the normal law is superseded by special anti-terrorism legislation/procedures within a certain number of feet of such bldgs., if not the already highly restrictive D.C. gun laws.


66 posted on 09/05/2008 12:43:57 PM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: xzins

“They hold rifles.”

Except when they’re empty.


67 posted on 09/05/2008 12:46:26 PM PDT by green iguana (FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: green iguana

Did they find a rifle and did the article say the rifle was not in the rifle case?


68 posted on 09/05/2008 12:48:58 PM PDT by xzins (Obama's Zero Experience: Not Close to McCain, Much Less that Sarah Palin)
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To: txroadkill
["The man stopped to ask police for directions near the Capitol building"]

"Ve are looking for vere you keep your nuclear wessels. Nu-Cle-Ar Wessels."

69 posted on 09/05/2008 12:53:00 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: SecAmndmt

These days, having Alaska plates on your vehicle is probable cause. ;-)


70 posted on 09/05/2008 12:55:22 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: xzins

That’s not my point, which was that a rifle case should not have given probable cause for a search, because it could be empty, unless it obviously was not. And this I don’t know, not knowing if it was a hard case, a well-padded soft case, or a cheap soft case.

People do carry around empty cases. Just last week I bought one for my 10/22. Covered it with a towel on my way home because I was picking up my boys at their school and didn’t want anyone to freak out. I may live in Texas, but it’s sissy Austin...

Probable cause could have been the dog, or maybe the guy gave permission for a search. But based on the little bit of law I know, I don’t believe a rifle case that didn’t obviously contain a rifle would give probable cause for a search.


71 posted on 09/05/2008 1:00:25 PM PDT by green iguana (FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: green iguana

Well,,, it is DC! You probably have to have it disassembled, and unavailable, locked in the trunk


72 posted on 09/05/2008 1:20:06 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: txroadkill

Let me guess......the guy was a Muslim


73 posted on 09/05/2008 1:21:36 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (The thing about politics is it's never so bad that it can't get worse)
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To: Free State Four

hahahahha!


74 posted on 09/05/2008 1:26:07 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER. / RIP LeRoi Moore Our loss, heaven's gain)
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To: green iguana

I believe within a certain number of feet of a federal building (especially on Capitol Hill and other obvious terrorism targets) special legislation supersedes normal 4th Amendment provisions re: search & siezure—making unusual zeal on the part of police/security well within the limits of “reasonable.”


75 posted on 09/05/2008 1:26:31 PM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: txroadkill

Was it David Ayers?


76 posted on 09/05/2008 1:39:43 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: txroadkill

Please tell me this is the capital of Iraq....... Doh!!!


77 posted on 09/05/2008 2:06:57 PM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: Free State Four

LOL!


78 posted on 09/05/2008 2:09:00 PM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I believe it is illegal for non-residents or unlicensed residents outside their homes to possess firearms in DC, even in transport. If you are traveling through the city on your way to a range or hunting and have evidence of that, they generally don’t do anything unless you stop or breakdown in the city. I believe the only other exception is residents transporting guns to and from their homes to be registered. In any case, the guns have to be broken down and in locked cases in the trunk or out of reach of the driver in the case of trucks and SUV’s. Ammo must be kept in a separate container from the weapons.


79 posted on 09/05/2008 2:50:27 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: VanShuyten

> I believe it is illegal for non-residents or unlicensed residents outside their homes to possess firearms in DC, even in transport <

Not exactly correct. Federal law trumps District law in the case of a non-resident driving thru DC on an interstate journey.

Such a non-resident may legally transport firearms thru the District, as long as:

1. The traveler doesn’t stay in the District more than 24 hours.

2. Each transported firearm is in a locked container and is stowed in the vehicle’s trunk (or elsewhere out of sight if the vehicle lacks a trunk).

3. The traveler is legally entitled to possess the firearm(s) in question both at the beginning and ending points of his interstate journey.


80 posted on 09/05/2008 4:31:10 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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