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"There are elements within the church who say that if you are at odds with any of the teachings of the church, you are at odds with the church. I think the church is bigger than that."

Joe, you are right about SOME elements of Catholic teaching, but MORTAL SIN is not one of them!

1 posted on 08/28/2008 5:18:27 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/28/2008 5:19:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/28/2008 5:20:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Another heretic.


4 posted on 08/28/2008 5:24:30 PM PDT by CASchack
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....looks like Obiden can expect a call from a Bishop or two


5 posted on 08/28/2008 5:24:34 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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geeze...You'd have thought he learned his lesson from Mrs. Pelosi. Just keep your mouth shut regarding church positions - when you obviously don't give two cents about what they stand for...
But nooo... Mr. Biden just dives right into Theologian Amateur Night...

6 posted on 08/28/2008 5:30:27 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Oh yeah Joe? Since when did the Church become okay with murdering the unborn?

I guess since Pelosi and Obama said it was okay.


7 posted on 08/28/2008 5:31:28 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: wagglebee

This is the same approach liberals take toward all voters. They think voters are stupid and easily sold anything they say and never think they will be called on it. Hopefully on the issue of abortion it deflates their balloon.


8 posted on 08/28/2008 5:33:33 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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To: wagglebee

CINO’s are finally stomping on the bishop’s toes a little too hard.


9 posted on 08/28/2008 5:35:48 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: wagglebee

It is obvious that Biden’s regard for his faith stands far below his regard for his politics. Biden professes to be Catholic, much like Pelosi, but disregards the most important of the church’s teachings as regards to the unborn. I will not cast the first stone but feel very sorry for Biden and his conscience - if he has one.


11 posted on 08/28/2008 5:38:18 PM PDT by caisson71 (Times change, values don't.)
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Liberals have no attachment to church doctrine, articles of faith, The Constitution, Bill of Rights, or Declaration of Independence. The Articles of Liberalism are updated daily to reflect popular culture, even to Obama’s promoting abortion after birth. To these extremist Liberals, voting against rule by morally bankrupt elitist politicians is somehow racist in their distorted reality.


13 posted on 08/28/2008 5:47:24 PM PDT by CarryingOn (The Presidency of the United States is not an entry-level position.)
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Aren’t the Catholic Bishops lucky to have such a near-inexhaustible supply of theological instruction from these deeply religious solons.


14 posted on 08/28/2008 5:48:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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Abortion and Euthanasia

Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."

15 posted on 08/28/2008 5:57:34 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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MY views are totally consistent with Catholic Social Doctrine.

No there not, Joe. What are you going to do next, strangle me with your rosary beads?

17 posted on 08/28/2008 5:59:43 PM PDT by mware (AMA)
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You CANNOT simultaneously believe that babies are a gift from God AND that it’s all right to kill them.


19 posted on 08/28/2008 6:04:02 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: wagglebee
Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver has said that Biden should refrain from Communion.
20 posted on 08/28/2008 6:09:28 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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We’re all sinners, and that certainly includes yours truly, but I would really really hate to stand before God and explain how I not only fought tooth and nail to promote the slaughter of tens of millions of innocent children, but also had no problem at all working in God’s “approval,” as these people constantly do.

These people have lost all threads that connect their souls to a sense of right and wrong. Everything they do, everything they say, is to benefit THEM in some way, and they don’t mind using the name of God to do it. Sickening. Tragic. Sad.

MM


23 posted on 08/28/2008 6:25:57 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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If Biden lies because he has a mental disorder that causes him to be a compulsive liar and totally incapable of telling the truth, then is it a sin in Catholic theology?


24 posted on 08/28/2008 6:38:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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“...elements within the Church...”

The Pope, the bishops in union with him, the Apostles, the Fathers of the Church, Jesus...


33 posted on 09/08/2008 10:10:01 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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