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Syria, Iran warm to Russia as US tensions grow
ap ^ | 8/26/08 | ap

Posted on 08/26/2008 3:14:06 PM PDT by Flavius

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; bible; bibleprophecy; ezekiel; geopolitics; iran; israel; persia; prophecy; russia; syria; venezuela
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1 posted on 08/26/2008 3:14:06 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

No surprise there. It’s been going on for some time.


2 posted on 08/26/2008 3:15:53 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Flavius

Ezekiel 38 my friend. It is coming. There’s a reason why Persia is mentioned specifically in 38:5 and we all know that Syria is a tool for Iran and Hezbollah is a tool of Syria and Iran against Israel.

Terrorist tools, that is.


3 posted on 08/26/2008 3:16:32 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

4 posted on 08/26/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: F15Eagle

So is Isaiah 17. And in the morning, she is not.


5 posted on 08/26/2008 3:20:24 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Flavius
Syria and the Soviets started the '73 war against Israel.
No suprise at all.
6 posted on 08/26/2008 3:20:35 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: F15Eagle
here is what I see happening

1. Israel attacks Iran in a surprise attack

2. In response terror groups from Syria launch an all out attack in Israel, including the use of chemical weapons

3. From this Israel nukes Damascus

4. This event starts the Gog/Magog war with Russia getting involved. China, India, and Pakistan are wild cards and could use this time to resolve their own issues.

5. Peace treaty is drafted and approved by Israel.

7 posted on 08/26/2008 3:21:35 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Blogger

Isaiah 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.


8 posted on 08/26/2008 3:22:11 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: LukeL

I’m not a “bible thumper” by any means... but this stuff is scary. If it’s truly gonna happen then things are going to get REALLY INTERESTING... REALLY soon.


9 posted on 08/26/2008 3:23:46 PM PDT by yantis
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To: LukeL

Close. We’ll see who is right.

1. Syria sends a missile into Tel Aviv with chemical warheads.
2. Israel responds by taking out Damascus with Nukes.
3. The hook is in Russia’s jaws who, with all of her Arab allies goes to take a spoil.
4. The nations involved in the Ez 38 war are destroyed but for the 1/6 of them.
5. In order to make Israel say “peace and safety” a treaty is signed or reaffirmed by ______ _________, the leader of the revived Roman Empire.


10 posted on 08/26/2008 3:28:03 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: LukeL
2. In response terror groups from Syria launch an all out attack in Israel, including the use of chemical weapons

Hmm, anybody else remember Russian trucks in convoy out of Iraq into Syria prior to the start of the Iraq war?
11 posted on 08/26/2008 3:28:03 PM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: BGHater

Do you have scripture you can freepmail me on this?


12 posted on 08/26/2008 3:28:31 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: yantis
The scary thing is 10 years ago much of the prophecy in Daniel, Isaiah, and Ezekiel seemed far away and impossible. But now we see Iran, and Russia forming a very strange alliance which the Bible told us about over 2,000 years ago.

Also keep in mind that Israel may soon discover oil on its proper land (not west bank, Gaza, or Golan) this could give more incentive for the Arab world to attack, as their oil supplies may not hold over the next 50 years.

13 posted on 08/26/2008 3:30:07 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: yantis

Everyone here not familiar with the Old Testament Book do read all of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 to get educated on this Biblical prophecy concerning the latter years attack on Israel by the current Russia alliance of nations banding together referred to in Ezekiel.


14 posted on 08/26/2008 3:31:37 PM PDT by tflabo (:)
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To: philled

There are also some reports of Saddam sending many 737s to Syria in 2002 under the guise of “humanitarian relief”. Many in the media and elite assume that chemical weapons need to be a giant missile or bomb, while it could easily just be the chemicals themselves. each 737 if gutted could easily hold 1,000s of gallons of chemical agents.


15 posted on 08/26/2008 3:32:12 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: tflabo
A little primer though

16 posted on 08/26/2008 3:36:23 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: yantis

just wait until the seven headed beast runs wild,

and the seven horsemen come riding in.....

the M/E still has time as Russia has to get kicked out of the G8 in order to get to the seven horsemen

the Bible never said eight horsemen


17 posted on 08/26/2008 3:39:46 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: BGHater

That’s pretty much what’s going to happen. Turkey is the House of Togarmah in Ezekiel 38:6 and gee, what a surprise, they’re on the side of Mother Russia against Georgia.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1931196&Language=en


18 posted on 08/26/2008 3:41:54 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Blogger

Could very well be. Mother Russia is sending her sole remaining aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, to Syria, too.


19 posted on 08/26/2008 3:43:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: LukeL

My personal belief is the world thinks Ezek 38 is Armageddon and then “peace” comes. The false peace that is...

I believe something significant is going to happen before we get a new President. I don’t know what that is but I’ve been suggesting folks get 30 days worth of bottled water and food. Doesn’t cost much and you can always give it away to your church if nothing happens. Perhaps I’m wrong but I don’t trust Pooty-Poot at all.


20 posted on 08/26/2008 3:45:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Blogger; LukeL

In general I hold the same beliefs you guys do.


21 posted on 08/26/2008 3:46:46 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; Blogger; LukeL; tflabo; yantis; Alouette; Salem; SJackson; 444Flyer; Esther Ruth; ...

Once more, Ezekiel 38-39 in King James Version, whole chapters, spoken by narrator


Ezekiel 38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zuYCM0g2kc


Ezekiel 39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVmd5hHeMWo


22 posted on 08/26/2008 3:51:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Jesus destroys the AC at Armageddon. That can’t precede the false peace. Armageddon is at the 2nd coming. I think Gog & Magog is at the top or just prior to the Trib.


23 posted on 08/26/2008 3:51:18 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Think if Syria launched a chemical weapon at Syria while the Admiral Kuznetsov was in port. The resulting nuke retaliation by Israel would destroy Damascus and put a hook into Mother Russia’s jaw.

It made me a bit nervous for Mother Russia to send their sole aircraft carrier to the lunatic Syrians.


24 posted on 08/26/2008 3:53:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Blogger

I agree. That’s why I think Gog-Magog of Ezek 38 comes first. I personally don’t think Gog is the Antichrist (not saying you do).


25 posted on 08/26/2008 3:55:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

It could. The timing of Syria is iffy. The reason I think it may occur before is because Israel thinks she is safe. She could still wipe out the carrier even at that. Compare the wording of the two events (Damascus and Gog). It is very similar. I think they are definitely closely tied together.

Gog is not the AC, I agree. I have some interesting ideas of who that might be, but am certainly in no way dogmatic about it. I don’t think we will know until that treaty is signed, and I’m not planning on being here.


26 posted on 08/26/2008 4:04:22 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: F15Eagle; Blogger

TYPO goof (LOL)

Think if Syria launched a chemical weapon at ISRAEL while the Admiral Kuznetsov was in port. The resulting nuke retaliation by Israel would destroy Damascus and put a hook into Mother Russia’s jaw.


27 posted on 08/26/2008 4:06:25 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

very well could be


28 posted on 08/26/2008 4:09:07 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
I don’t think we will know until that treaty is signed, and I’m not planning on being here.

Amen. No way to know until the man of sin is revealed.
29 posted on 08/26/2008 4:12:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Can’t thank you enough Eagle. My reading list has filled up and I am grateful.


30 posted on 08/26/2008 4:20:29 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

My pleasure to be of service. I might also recommend the four videos (about 1/2 down) regarding the alliance against Israel from John Ankerberg.

They are free for internet viewing for a short period of time. #1 is at the bottom of the four, then move up for #2, etc.

“The Alignment of Nations Against Israel”


31 posted on 08/26/2008 4:28:49 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Help me out here, wasn’t there a “Book of Isaiah” found recently, last year or so. Specifically a part that dealt with this?


32 posted on 08/26/2008 5:28:44 PM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: F15Eagle

Good ping. Thank you. Do you think it’s possible that Damascus will be destroyed by “friendly fire” from Iran or Russia. Stray launch?

The Lord Himself is Israel’s defender in the end of days and the credit and glory will go to Him for defending her.


33 posted on 08/26/2008 5:32:02 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=1 man+1 woman! Vote "YES" on Prop 8, amend the Calif. State Constitution this November.)
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To: Delmarksman

Not sure. They are always “extra” things found but some more suspicious than others.

The Qumran Scrolls or a.k.a. the Dead Sea Scrolls included, IIRC, a complete Book of Isaiah. But that was 1947. They’ve been on tour lately.


34 posted on 08/26/2008 5:32:17 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: 444Flyer

I don’t know. I’ve gone back and forth on the Isaiah 17 thing. But with the nuclear reactor of 2007 and the Hezbollah war of 2006, Damascus seems to be cruisin’ for a bruisin’ by the Israelis if they keep this stuff up.

And Syria still has her SCUD’s and her chemical weapons.


35 posted on 08/26/2008 5:35:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Flavius

I’d just note that Moscow is 1,641 miles from Tel Aviv.

Makes you kinda wonder if the Russians wish they had the American anti-missile defense system, doesn’t it?


36 posted on 08/26/2008 5:46:40 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com)
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To: F15Eagle

I liked it the first way.


37 posted on 08/26/2008 5:48:46 PM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: F15Eagle

” And Syria still has her SCUD’s and her chemical weapons. “

? And Saddam’s ?


38 posted on 08/26/2008 5:50:32 PM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: Humble Servant

hehe


39 posted on 08/26/2008 5:52:19 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Humble Servant

Maybe some left-overs from 1991. Though Saddam was trying to get stuff going again, certainly, in the mid-1990’s.

Syria had a lot of weapons by even the late 1990’s. Afez Assad died on the 33rd anniversary of the end of the Six Day War. June 10, 2000 if memory serves. If he had lived longer there’s no telling what might have happened.

Bashear Assad (sp) seems to be following in his footsteps though. As 2006 and 2007 proved. Syria’s been ready with this barrage for a long time. I just wonder what the shelf-life of those missiles is.


40 posted on 08/26/2008 5:55:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

What’s your best guess as to what was in the 100- truck convoy to Syria and the Bekka Valley?


41 posted on 08/26/2008 6:30:53 PM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: Flavius
You're known by the company you keep.
42 posted on 08/26/2008 7:07:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Humble Servant

That’s all it would be is a guess. Money (they found like $600 million in cash), art, weapons, who knows.

Whatever it was it wasn’t something the U.S. decided to attack or intercept.


43 posted on 08/26/2008 7:53:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Blogger

Mate, Syria is too close to Israel to nuke it. The winds will bring the radioactive mess into Israel. Its more likely that Israel will nuke Iran than Syria.


44 posted on 08/26/2008 11:42:18 PM PDT by MimirsWell
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To: MimirsWell
a) Not if it's neutron with the shorter-lived tactical weapons

b) Winds usually blow West to East, in general. That's why storms almost always move West to East or Southwest to North East (here in the states anyways). Damascus is on the target list, I assure you.

Syria is mostly east and north of Israel Not that a nuclear weapon won't have a drastic chilling effect on the whole world, including me. Damascus is totally north of Israel and about 50 miles away (roughly) from even the Golan Heights. BTW, at one time, Israel planted small tactical nuclear land mines in the Golan Heights.




45 posted on 08/27/2008 12:29:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Well, money doesn’t take up 100 truckloads unless it’s in pennies.

I would think someone at the museums would have noted by now that all their stuff had been removed a month or two before the war started.

Why would you send your weapons out of the country before the war started, unless they were weapons you didn’t want to be caught with?

Since hostilities had not commenced, and given the political climate, I would have been surprised to see the admin. attack the convoy without having its diplomatic ducks in a row.

I’m seriously interested in any other suggestions for the contents of the caravan to Syria; I can’t prove they were WMD’s, but it remains the only genuinely plausible explanation I’ve heard.


46 posted on 08/27/2008 4:57:08 AM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: MimirsWell

there is a country & a mountain range in between. If it were a low enough level nuke.


47 posted on 08/27/2008 5:22:22 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: F15Eagle

Some Pretrib interpretation places 7 things which precede the Great Tribulation.

1) Nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom (Perhaps WWI & WWII.) Matt 24:1-8
2) Regathering of Israel (2 regatherings occur, one in unbelief, one in belief; the one in belief precedes the Second Coming wherein Israel must return to God and call upon the Messiah before He returns.) Deut 30:1-5; Isaiah 11:11-12:6, 27:12-13; Ezekiel 39:25-29; Ezekiel 20:33-38; Zeph 1:7-2:2
3) Jerusalem under Jewish Control (specifically this is a deduction from the Third Temple existing during the Great Tribulation. The temple may be closer at hand than might be presumed. IMHO, the temple today is the body of the believer.) Daniel 9:27; Matt 24:15; 2Thes 2:3-4; Rev 11:1-2
4) A northern alliance invades northern Israel and is destroyed in the mountains. (aftermath takes 7 yrs and 7 months to clean up) (Ezekiel 38,39)
5) One World Government (with Russia and her allies reduced or out of the way, it is easier to see the remaining of the Muslim world uniting with western society in a type of one world government.) Daniel 7:23-24
6) Ten Kingdoms (Perhaps regionalization in its fruition.) (Daniel 7:24)
7) The Rise of the AntiChrist (Daniel 7:24; 2ndThes 2:1-3)
8) The Period of Peace and False Security (1stThes 5:1-3)
9) The Seven Year Covenant is signed which commences the Great Tribulation. (Daniel 9:24-27)

I can see the first 4 having occurred or occurring at a moment’s notice. Once Russia is hit in 4), I can see items 5-9 occuring within a 7-8 year time period.

I can see Hillary turning Babylon into a rebuilt WTC to house all international commerce and for some reason she has always struck me as meeting the criterion of the whore of Babylon, although many students of Prophecy correlate that term with perhaps NYC or a country. Then again that is just newspaper exegesis which is historically mistaken.


48 posted on 08/27/2008 6:01:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
I think once #4 hits the rest will occur more rapidly. We may already be seeing #7 right now, but just don't know who he is. I think Babylon could be literal Babylon.
49 posted on 08/27/2008 9:30:57 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Quix

FYI ping


50 posted on 08/27/2008 3:17:48 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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