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Obama, Clinton camps working on hotel roll-call vote
Denver Post ^ | 8-25-08 | Chuck Plunkett and Allison Sherry and Kimberly Johnson

Posted on 08/26/2008 4:32:54 AM PDT by Renfield

Supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton are furiously circulating petitions on the floor of the Democratic National Convention tonight, hoping to stave off a plan to hold the convention's roll call at breakfast Wednesday — out of the public eye — sources inside the delegations say.

The move being worked out between the Obama campaign and officials behind Clinton's suspended bid, would work in two parts: Delegates would cast votes at their hotels Wednesday morning; that night, at the Pepsi Center convention site, the roll-call process would rely on the votes cast that morning, the delegates said.

Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, a former state co-chair for Clinton said she knows the camps are in negotiations about what to do.

"My view is we need to come together as a party," DeGette said. "I admire Hillary Clinton greatly, but I think it would be divisive to have a vote on the floor. We need to have a unanimous vote."

The evening event would call on the delegation from Illinois, which Obama serves as the junior senator, and then move to New York, which Clinton represents.

After New York delegates applaud Clinton's long-fought and historic candidacy, a motion would be made to accept the votes cast at breakfast.

The move is being resisted by some Clinton delegates, who are busy tonight circulating a petition among delegates as the opening night of the convention, titled "One Nation," gets underway.

"We just want a roll call like you're supposed to have," said one of the delegates collecting signatures for the petition, who asked not to be named because of concern about friction within the party.

The Obama campaign denied that there would be a change.

"This is not true," Jennifer Backus, a senior advisor, said in an email in response to a question about the negotiations for the roll call change.

David Harper of Macon County, Tenn., signed a petition to ensure a floor vote in the hall surrounding the Pepsi Center.

"I came out here by God to vote for her, and I'm going to do it," Harper said, visibly angry about the news.

Kelly Jacobs a die-hard Clinton supporter from Hernando, Miss., an area that went heavily for Clinton, stood in the hall collecting signatures. She said the Clinton backers need 800 to secure a floor vote.

Anything less than that, Jacobs said, would be an insult to her candidate.

"I could have voted from home," Jacobs said. "She is our captain. We don't want to see her disrespected."

She was furious, she said, when she learned this morning that the votes may be held at the delegate hotels instead of on the convention hall floor.

"That's not what we learned in civics class," Jacobs said.

Texas delegate Tory Lauterbach said she has heard about the petition, but is unsure if she will sign it.

"I think the votes should be cast and counted the way they have been historically," she said. "But I don't think every delegate needs to stand and say something. I want a good convention."

So does Sally Phillips of Tampa, Fla. She said that although she is a Clinton supporter, she will undoubtedly support Obama because she doesn't want another Republican in the White House.

"I think the world of her," Phillips said. "I've seen the petition but I'm not going to focus on that."

The discussions come after a long summer in which Clinton delegates have argued for a chance to be heard during the convention. The party wants unity, and the announcement made by Obama and Clinton last week that a floor vote would occur was meant to provide that opportunity.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; clinton; convention; democrats; hillary; obama; rollcall; unity
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1 posted on 08/26/2008 4:32:54 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

Some party of change!!!


2 posted on 08/26/2008 4:38:32 AM PDT by GregB (Never forget Lance Cpl. Juan Lopez-Castaneda!!!!!!!)
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To: Renfield

The Outlaw Hilery Clinton is going to mount her steed and ride off to third party land.


3 posted on 08/26/2008 4:39:46 AM PDT by kcm.org (DRILL LOS ANGLES--DRILL NOW!!!!)
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To: Renfield

As Obama kicks Hillary while she’s down, it’s the Chicago Way!

}:-)4


4 posted on 08/26/2008 4:42:43 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Renfield

There are people in the dem party who know full well Obama/Biden is going to be a total disaster! At the very least Clinton supporters should be doing everything neccessary to prevent party unity for the sake of losing big time in Nov. I don’t think she will run again in 2012.


5 posted on 08/26/2008 4:42:57 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: Renfield

LOL...why not have the roll call vote at 3:00AM by text message? God help America if this bunch of inept clowns gains control of both the White House and Congress.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 4:44:08 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Renfield

The party of “count every vote” strikes again.

It is continuing to look like Hillary is fanning these flames. Wouldn’t that be a hoot if Hillary pull off a coup.

The Dems have basically maneuvered themselves into a position where neither candidate can win. Hillary can’t win without the black vote. BO can’t win without the people clinging to guns and religion.


7 posted on 08/26/2008 4:45:31 AM PDT by IamConservative (On 11/4, remember 9/11...)
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To: kittymyrib

Yea, What’s a little “DEMOCRACY” for the Demoncrats.
I LOVE THIS!


8 posted on 08/26/2008 4:46:09 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: GregB
Some party of change!!!

Of course the Dems are the Party of Change.

They change the rules when ever it suits them.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

9 posted on 08/26/2008 4:47:35 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Renfield
"We need to have a unanimous vote."

And they are prepared to pull a lot of tricks in order to get the illusion of unity. Potempkin Convention.

10 posted on 08/26/2008 4:48:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Renfield
Over here.
11 posted on 08/26/2008 4:49:25 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: kittymyrib

LMAO....It amazes me that the Obama campaign hasn’t already proposed this.....


12 posted on 08/26/2008 4:49:58 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: TexasNative2000

I searched the title of the article, and it showed no matching posts. Sorry.


13 posted on 08/26/2008 4:51:24 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

Let me guess, Obama will win with 100% of the votes. How fitting.


14 posted on 08/26/2008 4:52:16 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

With all the foolishness that took place with the primaries, all the hassles with MI and FL, popular vote vs. “super delegates” and now the dem party wants a secret vote done in the wee morning hours and passed to the leadership for later tally?????? Are these folks nuts??(yes)

There’s not one ounce of democracy in this tubular excrement of a party. If anyone believes Dean, pelosi, or reid will faithfully tally and transmit their vote, they’re nuts!


15 posted on 08/26/2008 5:02:45 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Loyal Buckeye; All

BO,,the epitome of EO, when the roll call gets to Illinois they’ll call for a suspension of rules and for a unamninous vote


16 posted on 08/26/2008 5:04:36 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Time to recall those. poisonous CFLs and the polticians who mandated them)
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To: Renfield

No prob. One of the problems with the search engine here is that it defaults to searching keywords, not titles. A common boo-boo I’ve made myself more than once.


17 posted on 08/26/2008 5:04:52 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: kittymyrib

Too much opportunity for fraud. After all, Obama is the King of Fraud!


18 posted on 08/26/2008 5:08:26 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Renfield
What Hilary could do is hurry up the proof that Barry O is really Barry Soetoro, Indonesian Citizen and then that would put Biden running for POTUS and she could be Vice President nominee (how utterly gracious of her) so that she could run in 2012.

Of course the Republicans win any way you look at it, BUT it puts her in place to run in 2012.

19 posted on 08/26/2008 5:21:43 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (o.b. is a registered trademark. But then Obama is an elitist and doesn't care.)
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To: Renfield

In other words, we want to rig the vote in private and make sure “the one” is not embarrassed and also means people cannot change their vote on the floor.

Is this communist Russia or downtown Denver.


20 posted on 08/26/2008 5:21:45 AM PDT by sunmars
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