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2008 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 8/25/2008
InTrade ^ | Monday, August 25, 2008 | Momaw Nadon

Posted on 08/25/2008 4:08:59 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon

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To: Maceman

There will be some element rioting no matter who wins or loses...screw ‘em.


41 posted on 08/25/2008 6:58:52 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Not bad, Colorado got VERY close to 50% earlier in the week. I'm guessing that state gets the biggest Obama bump because of the convention being there.

Hopefully a couple of weeks after the GOP convention we can see McCain move into the lead for the first time.

42 posted on 08/25/2008 7:05:00 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: justlurking
I noticed that too--all the McCain states are his by a landslide, and all the close states are given to Obama.

Just add Virginia and Ohio to McCain's side, and he's only 10 electoral votes short of victory.

43 posted on 08/25/2008 7:25:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Momaw Nadon
Using the probabilities above, the results of 20,000 simulated elections are listed in the table below. The "GOP Electoral Votes" is the expected value (probability weighted average). The "Probability of 270" is the point on the cumulative probability distribution for 270 electoral votes or higher.

Week GOP
Electoral
Votes
Probability
of 270
7-Jan 241.05 20.18%
14-Jan 235.29 14.70%
21-Jan 234.76 14.66%
28-Jan 236.58 15.44%
4-Feb 236.26 15.41%
11-Feb 237.25 16.43%
18-Feb 230.61 12.69%
25-Feb 233.56 15.44%
3-Mar 234.54 16.27%
10-Mar 240.26 22.49%
17-Mar 244.58 24.60%
24-Mar 249.73 28.50%
31-Mar 252.18 30.87%
7-Apr 248.97 27.60%
14-Apr 249.24 27.62%
21-Apr 247.86 25.60%
28-Apr 251.65 29.06%
5-May 250.84 28.07%
12-May 252.31 29.25%
19-May 248.73 25.99%
26-May 250.15 27.10%
2-Jun 248.98 26.46%
9-Jun 247.87 26.81%
16-Jun 248.41 26.06%
23-Jun 233.92 15.76%
30-Jun 234.84 16.21%
14-Jul 237.43 19.14%
21-Jul 231.61 14.15%
28-Jul 233.21 15.18%
4-Aug 234.45 16.45%
11-Aug 242.62 21.56%
18-Aug 246.64 25.20%
25-Aug 248.30 25.59%

For comparison, the results of 20,000 simulations of another model based on Rasmussen state-by-state polls as of 25-Aug are: GOP Electoral Votes = 253.91, Probability of 270 = 21.71%. The sensitivity of the Rasmussen state-by-state polls is such that a 1.25% reduction in Obama polling and a 1.25% increase in McCain polling results in 281.77 Electoral Votes for McCain, with a 74.33% chance of winning.

do you know what the most recent polls are saying regarding OH and PA?

Here is the history of Rasmussen state polls, at the end of each month.

Week Ohio
McCain
Ohio
Obama
29-Feb 42% 41%
31-Mar 46% 40%
30-Apr 47% 40%
31-May 45% 44%
30-Jun 44% 43%
31-Jul 46% 40%
25-Aug 45% 41%
Week Pennsylvania
McCain
Pennsylvania
Obama
29-Feb 39% 49%
31-Mar 44% 43%
30-Apr 44% 43%
31-May 43% 45%
30-Jun 42% 46%
31-Jul 42% 47%
25-Aug 40% 45%

-PJ

44 posted on 08/25/2008 7:52:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Obama's "citizen of the world" is the 2008 version of Kerry's "global test.")
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To: Momaw Nadon

The Left Wing media wants you to believe the voting is over.


45 posted on 08/25/2008 9:58:09 PM PDT by wac3rd (Carter80/Obama08)
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To: justlurking
Maybe so, but in the past it's been a very good indicator of the outcome of US elections.

That is very misleading because the bets adjust right until minutes before election day. So, yes the final mumbers are fairly accurate but that does not give any credence to numbers this far out.

46 posted on 08/26/2008 12:07:47 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Momaw Nadon

Colorado
Nevada
New Hampshire
Ohio
Virginia

All of these states are 10% or less away from being moved into the McCain column.

I don't know about the other states, but McCain recently said that the Colorado River Compact in the West should be renegotiated, and his stock in Colorado started to drop. I have heard no end of comments from people wondering if he "gets" it.

Colorado already doesn't get to use all of it's water allocation, and renegotiating the Compact would automatically mean less water to the state and less economic development. It would cause severe economic strain.

Maybe not coincidentally, the water would be going to Arizona, McCain's home state. California would get some of it, too.

Bob Schaffer, a fellow Republican who is running for the Senate was quick to disown McCain on the issue. He said: "“I made some statement on the order of, ‘over my cold, dead, political carcass’, and talked about how this is only real guarantee and protection that we have against more politically powerful downstream and thirsty states and to renegotiate this, to use another context, that would be the equivalent of a lamb having a discussion with a pack of wolves about what’s going to be on the dinner menu,” From here *pops*.

Here's more from the Pueblo Chieftain *pops*, which gives a bit more background.

If McCain wants to win Colorado, he needs to stop taking it totally for granted.

47 posted on 08/26/2008 12:32:03 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: AmericaUnited
That is very misleading because the bets adjust right until minutes before election day. So, yes the final mumbers are fairly accurate but that does not give any credence to numbers this far out.

What I wrote was not misleading at all, unless you snip out the following to make it appear so:

This far out, the absolute numbers aren't that important. The interesting information is in the trend -- i.e. how it's shifting from one outcome to the other. And as the original poster points out, it is definitely trending in favor of McCain.

48 posted on 08/26/2008 5:20:01 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: justlurking
What I wrote was not misleading at all,

You mangled what I wrote as far as what was "misleading". Go re-read it.

49 posted on 08/26/2008 5:36:34 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
You mangled what I wrote as far as what was "misleading". Go re-read it.

I quoted everything that you wrote. On the other hand, you sliced up my response AGAIN to make it appear to say something you could attack.

I can see that I'm wasting my time with you. Forum rules prevent me from posting what I'd really like to say to you.

50 posted on 08/26/2008 5:47:59 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: justlurking

If I understand Intrade a contact doesn’t cost much. Depending on how many contracts are out there, a few folks could move the percentage anyway they want.


51 posted on 08/26/2008 8:00:16 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf
For the ones cited in this thread, it appears that a contract is a fraction of $10.00, and pays $10. So, if the current price is 80.0, the actual purchase is $8.00.

However, the important part is the outstanding number of contracts. For the state-by-state electoral votes, the total volume is pretty low, especially in comparison with the contracts betting on the outcome of the general election.

The battleground states have the highest volume, but even those could be temporarily swung one way or the other by someone with enough money to burn. However, they would soon swing back, when someone seizes the opportunity to make some money.

Again, the trend (over weeks and months) is what is important. At the moment, the absolute numbers are not useful, especially for a close election.

52 posted on 08/26/2008 8:15:00 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: justlurking
Again, the trend (over weeks and months) is what is important. At the moment, the absolute numbers are not useful,

People look at REAL POLLS and then determine how to bet. If the real polls show a trend over weeks or months, the money bet will be a reflection of those polls. IT IS NOT A LEADING INDICATOR. Only the ignorant use these betting indicators as a predictor.

53 posted on 08/26/2008 10:34:40 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

You are so correct, hence this thread is crap........


54 posted on 08/26/2008 4:39:05 PM PDT by cmsgop ( " excuse me stewardess I speak jive")
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