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FactCheck.org ^ | 8/23/2008 | EagleUSA

Posted on 08/23/2008 8:09:47 PM PDT by EagleUSA

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To: SatinDoll

“If Senator Obama’s sister can get a COLB from the State of Hawaii, even though she was born in Djakarta, Indonesia, in 1970, then anyone can go in and report a live birth and get a COLB in Hawaii!

Having a Certificat of Live Birth means nothing!”

If Philip J. Berg is correct in his twenty page lawsuit, that BHO was actually born in Kenya and brought to Hawaii post-partum, then that “genuine” COLB becomes industrial-grade buttwipe! The $64 Million question becomes: Is there any record in Kenya of BHO’s actual birth there? How sophisticated are their records? Would any record exist of Stanley Dunham departing Kenya either great with child or bearing a newborn in her arms?


21 posted on 08/23/2008 8:40:03 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

I’m assuming that being born in a U.S. military base, even if it is located in a foreign country, is enough to satisfy the Constitution?
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Well two things stand out. First, you can bet everything you have two of, that if McCains’ birthplace, in any way, compromised his requirements, the frothing libs would have made major hay of it in spades from here to Mars and back. Second, I seriously doubt that those serving our country in the military would be penalized if they had children on foreign soil while in uniform. That would be stupid, a radical demotivator, and totally senseless.

Afterall, we have at least half of the Washington government trying to GIVE CITIZENSHIP TO ILLEGAL CRIMINAL MEXICANS for NOTHING.

McCain is in the clear.


22 posted on 08/23/2008 8:40:24 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: popdonnelly

Who the heck is FactCheck that I should believe them?
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You should not. Especially because they are buddies with Obama and his anti-American terrorist buddy, Ayers. It just smells of total fraud, and we are not dealing with honest or credible people here, are we?


23 posted on 08/23/2008 8:43:09 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

factcheck.org = factnot.org


24 posted on 08/23/2008 8:45:18 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

“I’m assuming that being born in a U.S. military base, even if it is located in a foreign country, is enough to satisfy the Constitution? (But being born in Kenya, as Obama might have, would of course NOT be enough to satisfy.)”

Not only that, but there is also the matter of multi-national citizenship. Does BHO hold citizenship in Indonesia and maybe Kenya, as well as not EVEN holding it in the United States? I hope Philip Berg, et al keep pushing this matter. Their Complaint bears the notation on the front page, “JURY TRIAL DEMANDED.”


25 posted on 08/23/2008 8:47:04 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: EagleUSA
We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.

Wow.

26 posted on 08/23/2008 8:47:13 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: TheCipher
Not in Hawaii. There it was common for all sorts of things to be put down ~ incredible things even.

The federally approved standard racial nomenclature didn't exist in 1961. That came later.

Those of us who benefit from a sufficiently large time dilation differential factor remember those halcyon days when a man could be any race he wished and to hell with the fascists.

27 posted on 08/23/2008 8:47:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: expatpat
I am still suspicious, especially since the issue number was blacked out.

Blacking out the cert number would constitute an alteration, and an alteration invalidates the cert. So why should anyone accept it?

Like you, I am not satisfied. Besides, even if this thing were real, why should we be asked to settle for an abbreviated substitute? He should release his original birth certificate, not a COLB, because at this point it is hard to see any interpretation other than he is hiding something.

28 posted on 08/23/2008 8:48:48 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: TheCipher
Like an embassy, a military base is considered American soil.

That's what I figured. Thanks.

29 posted on 08/23/2008 8:58:21 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: muawiyah

Hi Mooie!

You haven’t heard his sister angrily denouncing the situation concerning that COLB, have you? Nope. She’s being very quiet.

She’s teaching at a university in Hawaii. Is she teaching with a green card, or is she a naturalized citizen, or is she considered a U.S. citizen because she has a COLB?

I’m just asking questions as Senator Obama seems determined not to provide information on his past, and refuses to answer questions regarding his birth. Grandma Dunham in Hawaii knows, and she’s not talking; Grandma Obama in Kenya knows, and she won’t shut up - so take your choice!


30 posted on 08/23/2008 8:58:27 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

At the time that McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, it was in fact part of the USA. Just as those now born in DC, PR, VI are natural born citizens, and Just as those born in Alaska and Hawaii before they were states are natural born citizens, so McCain is also.


31 posted on 08/23/2008 8:59:44 PM PDT by spintreebob (.)
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To: SatinDoll
Her mother was an American citizen working for the US government abroad when she was born.

Indonesia might have some claim on her, but that's Indonesia's business isn't it.

However, she'd have to report the birth of her daughter to Hawaii state government at the time, so I suppose there's that information in the civil records.

If the folks are correct about Obama being born in Kenya (or Canada) (both have that "kkk" sound eh) then her mother was well-versed in what she had to do to get her daughter's birth as an American citizen registered in Hawaii.

32 posted on 08/23/2008 9:02:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SatinDoll
BTW, the "grandma", or "chief wife", or "great aunt", or "friendly neighbor" in Kenya didn't differentiate between Dunham and Obama's father's SECOND white wife.

Makes me suspect she can't tell the difference. I do hope you can.

33 posted on 08/23/2008 9:04:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: freespirited
You did know all states have provisions for changing the information in what you are calling an "original birth certificate". Some, like Indiana, allow such changes to be made up to the time you're 18 years of age.

(These are actual changes to the input document used to build the civil registration of a live birth in the data base).

34 posted on 08/23/2008 9:07:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TheCipher

“Where it says fathers race: African. Now that is his nationality.”

Actually, 5 of the 6 human races came from Africa, including caucasians. The only one that did not is asian.

Senator Barack Obama would be of negro and caucasian races. His father would be negro and his mother caucasian.

I have no idea why someone would screw-up and put down African except that it is a forgery and the person doing the forgery was ignorant of race specifics.


35 posted on 08/23/2008 9:07:38 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: spintreebob

If you are born to an American abroad who lived many years of adult life in the USA, you are a natural-born American. It doesn’t matter if it’s on a military base or not.


36 posted on 08/23/2008 9:11:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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37 posted on 08/23/2008 9:16:42 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: TheCipher

Dan? Is that you?


38 posted on 08/23/2008 9:22:23 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: muawiyah

From what I understand, the second white wife had children in Kenya who grew up there and their grandmother would certainly know them from the “American” grandson who came to visit later.

One thing for certain: Senator Obama could clear this up in a heartbeat. But he is not forthcoming with information about himself that could clarify this situation. That is all many Democrats are asking. Refusing to do so, or just plain ignoring the questions, adds to the frustration of those Democrats who don’t want to see the truth come out AFTER the convention. They want to be back in power and back in the White House.

I want to see a Republican remaining in control of the White House.

Questions about McCain’s eligibility to be President tend to make me nervous because Democrats, in control of some states, would not hesitate to throw his name off the ballot this November. By the time the courts get done with handling it the election would be over.

McCain has been straightforward in presenting his birth certificate. Obama should do the same, and I don’t mean that “peculiar” COLB, either.


39 posted on 08/23/2008 9:25:23 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: EagleUSA; Polarik
See Polarik's analysis of the new COLB images:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2066515/posts
FactCheck's photos of Obama's birth certificate just proved that their posted image of it was forged

40 posted on 08/23/2008 9:33:01 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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