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Russian military slams NATO's Black Sea presence
M&C ^ | Aug 23, 2008, 10:03 GMT

Posted on 08/23/2008 4:11:08 AM PDT by maquiladora

Moscow - The Russian military Saturday criticized the presence of NATO naval vessels in the Black Sea given the current conflict in Georgia.

'NATO is enhancing its military presence on the Black Sea under the pretext of providing humanitarian aid,' Deputy Chief of Staff Anatoly Nogovitsyn said, according to a report by the Interfax news agency.

'This does not contribute to stability in the region,' the colonel general added.

The US destroyer USS McFaul is currently on its way to Georgia carrying aid supplies, passing the Bosphorus on Friday evening, accompanied by a Polish naval vessel.

Two more US naval vessels are scheduled to pass the straits off Istanbul headed for the Georgian coast in the coming days.

Several other NATO naval vessels passed the straits into the Black Sea on Thursday on their way to a naval exercise off the coasts of NATO members Bulgaria and Romania in the western part of the sea.

According to NATO, the exercise was planned more than a year ago.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blacksea; geopolitics; georgia; russia

1 posted on 08/23/2008 4:11:09 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Like “Russian” peace keepers in Georgia did much for the peace... Amazing hypocrisy...
2 posted on 08/23/2008 4:14:46 AM PDT by DB
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To: maquiladora
My friends and neighbors here in Germany invariably look at me as a curiosity, or worse, as a cowboy in need of rehabilitation when I tell them they ought to fall on their knees and thank God every day for the American Navy.


3 posted on 08/23/2008 4:15:32 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: DB

Just standard Soviet doubletalk.


4 posted on 08/23/2008 4:16:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: maquiladora

Hey Russia, its not your sea any more.


5 posted on 08/23/2008 4:31:06 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: nathanbedford
They will look to you for saving their arses if ivan puts his iron boot on their necks. Europe is begging for another arse-whuppin’ and ivan is on the move. How many times do we have to bail their arses out, only to become hated by them for saving their very souls?

LLS

6 posted on 08/23/2008 4:32:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( REAGANISM not communism)
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To: maquiladora

Whutchu gonna do 'bout it, Willis?

7 posted on 08/23/2008 4:39:04 AM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: maquiladora

This is serious and I love it!

When I was an airman aboard the USS Independence (CV-62) in the Med during the 70s,the most we could dare do to pee off the Russkies was to anchor in Istanbul.Going further up the straits and into the Black Sea would have been considered an invitation to war with the Soviet Union.

Putin has oil money and some rusty old nukes but he ain’t no commie superpower—not yet anyway.

Hey Bush,send the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) to Sebastopol for some well earned shore leave!


8 posted on 08/23/2008 4:49:44 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yeltsin was the comedy relief between two evil bastards.")
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To: maquiladora
'NATO is enhancing its military presence on the Black Sea under the pretext of providing humanitarian aid,' Deputy Chief of Staff Anatoly Nogovitsyn said.....

So.....you invaded a country and caused the need for humanitarian aid under the pretext of protecting an illegitimate claim to a territory.

9 posted on 08/23/2008 4:57:08 AM PDT by edpc (@#&!*$)
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To: maquiladora

Right now, one of our destroyers can probably take out the entire Soviet Black Sea Fleet.


10 posted on 08/23/2008 5:43:50 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Happy Rain
Hey Bush,send the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) to Sebastopol for some well earned shore leave!

Can't. Warships over a certain tonnage can't transit the straits due to some 1936 accord whose name escapes me at the moment.

Turkey controls the straits and has a say in who can transit. US Hospital ships are not even allowed.

11 posted on 08/23/2008 5:58:11 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

And one of our “Boomers,” and I’m sure several are already in the Black Sea,can take out Russia.


12 posted on 08/23/2008 5:58:39 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yeltsin was the comedy relief between two evil bastards.")
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To: AFreeBird

Darn!
The USS Reagan (it’s RR motto-”peace through strength”) would have made a great statement.


13 posted on 08/23/2008 6:01:10 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yeltsin was the comedy relief between two evil bastards.")
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To: maquiladora
Uh, Dear Russian General, in America we have a saying: Payback is a Beach. It's a rocky beach with no sand and cactus all over. You've made your beach, now lie in it.

This Georgia thing is really turning into a major disaster for Russia. Did you notice that a Polish Navy ship is accompanying the US Navy destroyer? The Black Sea is international waters. I'm sure the Georgians and Ukrainians for that matter would invite the US Navy for port visits. And what is that the Russians business ... friends visiting friends.

They can go pound the beach.

14 posted on 08/23/2008 6:03:40 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (We're all Georgians now, Lili-Putin!)
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To: AFreeBird

The 1936 Treaty of London, which was the last naval big disarmament treaty, in the spirit of Kellogg-Briand, before Hitler and the Japanese showed the world exactly how foolish the western nations had been since 1919.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 6:05:41 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Nope that's not it. I found the relevant info over a Wiki..

The strategic importance of the Bosporus remains high, and control over it has been an objective of a number of hostilities in modern history, notably the Russo–Turkish War, 1877–1878, as well as of the attack of the Allied Powers on the Dardanelles in 1915 in the course of the First World War.

Several international treaties have governed vessels using the waters. Following WW I, the 1920 Treaty of Sèvres demilitarized the strait and made it an international territory under the control of the League of Nations. This was amended under the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, which restored the straits to Turkish territory – but allowed all foreign warships and commercial shipping to traverse the straits freely. Turkey eventually rejected the terms of that treaty, and subsequently Turkey remilitarized the straits area. The reversion to this old regime was formalized under the Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Turkish Straits of July 1936. That convention, which is still in practical force as of 2008, treats the straits as an international shipping lane, but Turkey does retain the right to restrict the naval traffic of non-Black Sea nations (such as Greece, a traditional enemy, or Algeria).

16 posted on 08/23/2008 6:16:11 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: maquiladora
NATO is enhancing its military presence on the Black Sea under the pretext of providing humanitarian aid,' Deputy Chief of Staff Anatoly Nogovitsyn said, according to a report by the Interfax news agency.

'This does not contribute to stability in the region,' the colonel general added.

Despite the pot calling the kettle black aspect to this statement I have to agree that it is on the mark. Now if only we could get a carrier group into the Black Sea. That would be the ticket.

17 posted on 08/23/2008 6:22:40 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: AFreeBird

Ah, it was another convention signed at roughly the same time. Thanks for the correction.


18 posted on 08/23/2008 6:29:48 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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