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Farmers clucking over animal proposition
Valley Press on ^ | Tuesday, August 19, 2008. | ALISHA SEMCHUCK

Posted on 08/19/2008 12:32:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Antelope Valley farmers believe passage of Proposition 2, the Prevention of Farm Animal Cruelty Act, would place greater financial burden on the state's egg industry and leave consumers shell-shocked.

While members of the Los Angeles County Farm Bureau,and the California Farm Bureau Federation stand opposed to the ballot measure, the Humane Society of the United States and the Sierra Club are urging voters to support the proposition when they go to the polls on Nov. 4.

The animal rights advocates contend "little, if any cost increase" would result from passage of Prop. 2, a conclusion reached by researchers at the University of California, Davis, who evaluated the potential impact of the ballot measure in a study funded by the American Egg Board.

If passed, the measure would prohibit "the confinement on a farm of pregnant pigs, calves raised for veal and egg-laying hens in a manner that does not allow them to turn around freely, lie down, stand up and fully extend their limbs," according to a description by the state's legislative analyst in Sacramento.

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In accordance with the measure, violators would be guilty of a misdemeanor and could be fined up to $1,000 and/or jailed in a county facility for up to six months.

Because Prop. 2 requires more space or alternate methods of housing the animals than most California farmers currently provide, the measure will increase production costs for some, the legislative analyst admitted.

"To the extent that these higher production costs cause some farmers to exit the business, or otherwise reduce overall production and profitability, there could be reduced state and local tax revenues," the legislative analyst stated. "The magnitude of this fiscal effect is unknown, but potentially in the range of several million dollars annually.

(Excerpt) Read more at avpress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: animalrights; foodsupply; govwatch; prop2

1 posted on 08/19/2008 12:32:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Will the Humane Society and Sierra Club make up the cost difference?


2 posted on 08/19/2008 12:40:54 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (Where's Michele??)
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To: BenLurkin
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it seems the left is too enthralled w/ their creations to see just how terrible the consequences. They're not farmers and have NO clue what it takes to run a farm profitably. So, of course, they don't think this is going to be a burden. The guys who know, the farmers, need to be listened to. There's a reason food is cheap in this country. The PETA types though are working busily to make that a thing of the past.
3 posted on 08/19/2008 12:41:40 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: BenLurkin

More eggs from Mexico. Huevos pendejos.


4 posted on 08/19/2008 12:42:10 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: BenLurkin
Yet another reason why we should allow California to secede from the Union
5 posted on 08/19/2008 12:44:38 PM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: BenLurkin
Because Prop. 2 requires more space or alternate methods of housing the animals than most California farmers currently provide, the measure will increase production costs for some, the legislative analyst admitted.

I guess the rest of "most" will just go out of business? So that won't count as an increase in production costs?

Fewer producers may well translate into less product, but will likely mean higher costs if this is the reason.

I'd be for mailing the sponsors/proponents eggs...

6 posted on 08/19/2008 12:45:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: BenLurkin

” the measure would prohibit “the confinement on a farm of pregnant pigs, calves raised for veal and egg-laying hens in a manner that does not allow them to turn around freely, lie down, stand up and fully extend their limbs,”

Actually, I agree with this one. Some breeding animals are kept in a cage literally too small to move in—even to turn around—for their entire lives. They are penned in, facing forward, with their snout pointed to a feed tray. They are there to breed one litter after another, and never get out. I can’t be that cruel, but evidently some farmers can. (And btw, I HATE PETA!)


7 posted on 08/19/2008 12:59:07 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight

What you said.


8 posted on 08/19/2008 1:05:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: CondorFlight

A major cause of piglet death is when the nursing sow rolls over and crushes them. Restriction of movement prevents this.


10 posted on 08/19/2008 1:30:56 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: BenLurkin
The animal rights advocates contend "little, if any cost increase" would result from passage of Prop. 2, a conclusion reached by researchers at the University of California, Davis, who evaluated the potential impact of the ballot measure in a study funded by the American Egg Board.

As we all know communists lie in order to get control of our lives. Are these "animal rights advocates" nothing but front groups for leftist organizations -- communists, marxists, socialists? What is the position of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA)?

11 posted on 08/19/2008 2:19:52 PM PDT by olezip
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To: CondorFlight
Actually, I agree with this one.

You support interfering with the property rights of others?

12 posted on 08/19/2008 2:24:12 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok

As I understand it PETA has nothing to do with this bill. Its the Humane Society, Sierra Club etc who are endorsing it. The usual leftists but I agree with the goal of the prop on this one. I doubt if it passes that much will improve for the animals but it would be nice if it did. Somehow liberals are always able to create a lot of hoopla and get nothing done so I expect the same.

Conservatives would have to tackle this issue to actually get anything done in an effective way and it seems most shrug it off as too liberal an issue for them to care about. That’s too bad because these animals live like crap for their short lives before becoming our food. Its not right.


13 posted on 10/29/2008 6:55:55 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: BootsOfEscaping
That’s too bad because these animals live like crap for their short lives before becoming our food. Its not right.

That's the beauty of our system. Those who like to eat but don't want to be associated with the hard work and dirty end of it, are free to abstain from buying or consuming it.

I raise various animals. Some are for byproducts. Some are for food and yet some are pets. I'm compassionate yet I don't consign 'human rights' to my animals.

What my neighbors do with their animals is their business and what I do with mine is my business, they are property.

Least of all, I don't worship animals.

14 posted on 10/29/2008 9:59:32 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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