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McCain's Saddleback Grand Slam
humanevents.com ^ | 08/18/2008 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 08/18/2008 5:34:25 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: chopperman

Its easy to say that when it is hypothenical, but when faced with reality the need for survical becomes overpowering. I have no doubt that McCain struggled more than we can imagine having actually been it that situation and the fact that he held back his need for survival and placed other ahead of himself shows what kind of man her is.


41 posted on 08/18/2008 7:04:46 AM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: hemogoblin

Ouch - I want Obama to be the “defeated DemocRat nominee”, not the “defeated nominee in the DemocRat race”.


42 posted on 08/18/2008 7:07:51 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: meandog

Rush Limbaugh ego is too big to admit that. The nomination of John McCain as the Republican candidate proved wihtout any doubt that Rush Limbaugh and many conservative talk radio hosts are much less influential than they think they are.


43 posted on 08/18/2008 7:09:54 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: LRS

Yup. Around in circles till he was dizzy and I wanted to slap him. And Obama lied too. The number of abortions has gone down.


44 posted on 08/18/2008 7:10:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LRS

When I read this I wonder what Warren thinks of the man he said was “Amazing” and a Man of “Good character”?

And no Warren was not speaking of McCain.


45 posted on 08/18/2008 7:13:35 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: roofer13
Some people want a black in the White House to get that monkey off our back,I want a Viet Nam Veteran for the same reason.

That's an interesting point. Vietnam vets have been so stigmatized, mainly by the left for political reasons, as tragic burnouts and above all as pathetic victims. A McCain presidency would probably help undo that.

Btw, isn't it funny how in 2004 being a Vietnam vet and a "war hero" was, to liberals, the ultimate credential for a presidential candidate? Yet just four later they seem almost totally disinterested in the fact that we have a true Vietnam war hero in McCain. In fact it's not uncommon to see his POW status mocked on the lefty forums. Funny how fashions change like that.

46 posted on 08/18/2008 7:16:31 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: NavyCanDo
I got to admit, I was right here on FR posting a few months ago when my man Fred dropped out that I would never, could never vote for McCain

I said the same thing. We have all grown to hate McCain for various reasons......but damn, he hit the ball out of the park in the Saddleback forum.......I'm still sitting here with my mouth open....

47 posted on 08/18/2008 7:30:20 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: LRS

AMEN!


48 posted on 08/18/2008 7:30:34 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: tsmith130

Good info, thanks for posting :-)


49 posted on 08/18/2008 7:30:40 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: jveritas

It is not about ego. McCain had a great performance, but I’m still not sure if I will vote for him.

He has continually cut off conservatives at the knees on key issues in the Senate. His attempting to ramrod through the immigration amnesty when it was clear that a huge majority of the country wants the border secured and lawbreakers sent back home was simply insulting to millions of law-abiding Americans.

He sounded great Saturday night, but they didn’t ask him about Campaign Finance reform, immigration or other issues where he stabbed conservatives in the back.


50 posted on 08/18/2008 7:37:37 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: meandog
4-F loudmouth who ducked Vietnam

4-F means that you are not physically fit to serve. You on the other hand seem to fit into Section -8!

51 posted on 08/18/2008 7:56:04 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: semantic
Their issue is whether or not to nominate a woman who could be reasonably construed as qualified, and could possibly beat McC vs literally torching both the Dem party and US inner-cities.

I fully agree. The Democrat Party finds itself in a very bad position.

A few months ago someone on FR quoted a poll that asked self-identified conservatives and liberals what was most important in choosing a candidate, the candidate's policy positions or their personal charisma. Overwhelmingly conservatives said "policy" and liberals said "charisma".

The Dem's may now regret their choice of "charisma".

52 posted on 08/18/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Obama is like nails on a chalkboard...

A perfect metaphor -

I've heard continually from people, as assuredly many others have, that there is something in Obama's manner and above all his recitations that just plain irritates...

Initially, "uniqueness" served Obama well. But the newness has worn off; and what remains is - just plain, increasing irritation.

53 posted on 08/18/2008 8:13:57 AM PDT by mtntop3
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To: mtntop3

I don’t have TV and haven’t heard either man speak before. But I watched Saddleback online. Listening to Obama was an eyeopener. And after having listened to him, I was very irritated. Hence the “nails on a chalkboard” opinion. Hesitant verbiage is annoying.


54 posted on 08/18/2008 8:23:56 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tsmith130
My wife said this is all they talked about in her women’s Sunday school session today. Several of the ladies who had been leaning Obama, were now solidly McCain after watching last nights “debate”. A couple said Obama showed he didn’t have any substance.

WOW!!!

55 posted on 08/18/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (About Obama: "Overinflated balloons pop suddenly and catastrophically." - Bill Dupray)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Radical Feminist pro-abort inlaw:

“I support Hillary, but I believe Obama has the energy to make us not be so selfish”.

You know what “selfish” means to a leftist? Opposing collectivism and the requisite loss of freedom.


56 posted on 08/18/2008 8:33:44 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: meandog

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57 posted on 08/18/2008 8:36:05 AM PDT by Mamzelle (In the cool, dark quiet of my mailbox, John McCain asks me for money)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
but then a blind, castrated chihuahua is better than Obama.

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"psst...Yo quiero cambia y esperanza!"

58 posted on 08/18/2008 8:37:25 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (About Obama: "Overinflated balloons pop suddenly and catastrophically." - Bill Dupray)
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To: chopperman
"...He knew he would be..."

With respect, I don't think one can assume he "knew".

Isolated, without privacy, suffering, in control of nothing and no one; not even his own right to exist. The "gut wrenching decision" may have truly been difficult simply because it offered him the opportunity to exert "control" over something...to make a CHOICE that would offer him further choices. I recall being discharged from the Army, and the joy of once again being in control of my own life...well, at least until I got married.

59 posted on 08/18/2008 8:55:56 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: Mamzelle

So go vote for the Messiah if you hate McCain. TROLL!


60 posted on 08/18/2008 9:16:48 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 130 and counting)))
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