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To: Sal
I loved her answer (shamelessly paraphrasing): We'll kick 'em out of the 21st century back into poverty, isolation, and stagnation.

What a FANTASTIC answer! Russia's demographics are NOT healthy. Avg. lifespan = 50-somethng; fertility rate = WAAY below the population replacement rate; rampant alcoholism; chief cause of death = NOT some sort of disease. but BLUNT-FORCE TRAUMA. Source: there is a professional demographer at AEI, by the name of Nick Eberstadt, who wrote about this stuff a couple years ago. Need to supply a link to Nick's report.

475 posted on 08/17/2008 2:30:38 PM PDT by CDB (B. Hussein Obama, the "Magic Negro"--not too articulate, uhhh...hw)
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To: CDB
Link to Eberstadt
479 posted on 08/17/2008 2:57:27 PM PDT by CDB (B. Hussein Obama, the "Magic Negro"--not too articulate, uhhh...hw)
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To: CDB
I probably should have made a stronger disclaimer than "(shamelessly paraphrasing)". She spoke in very tough diplomatese, but it was still diplomatese.

She referred to removing them from or not accepting them into organizations like G-7, I think she said WTO, and others that would be helpful for them in terms of cooperation in expanding their economy and assimilating them into the 21st century (from me: poverty and stagnation).

She also referred to the unity of neighboring nations against them and other nations joining defense organizations against them and the disgust and rejection of other nations at their behavior (isolation).

Again, I'm still paraphrasing, but I think it comes pretty close to what she said. She was still a diplomat, but an obviously angry and very determined diplomat. I'm not a diplomat so I don't want anybody to think the exact words I used were hers.

I agree with you on their demographics being unhealthy. I didn't know that blunt-force trauma was the chief cause of death, but given what I've seen lately, I find it easy to believe. If you post that link, please ping me. Thanks.

486 posted on 08/17/2008 4:48:22 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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