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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: Nonstatist
scumbag is more like it. scarface, yeah, that's the (GOP) ticket. sheesh.

96% of Free Republic knows and is on record through polling, about this guy...I dont expect he will poll that many conservative votes this year, if folks have an alternative.

61 posted on 08/14/2008 9:38:02 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Men Who Died in Wars For Our Voting Rights Also Did So For The Right To Vote Indie-Conservative?)
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To: semaj; Jo Nuvark
After all, and I paraphrase a great Frenchman, "America did not become great because of its government, it became, and remained great because its people were good" (DeTocqueville).

A student of Tocqueville? Your hope may not be in vain, Jo. ;)
62 posted on 08/14/2008 9:38:42 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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63 posted on 08/14/2008 9:38:49 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: wastedpotential

The issue for a justice is whether the supposed right to privacy (not found in the constitution)


This is not in defence of abortion, but individuals have rights not enumerated in the Constitution. That is recognized in the ninth and tenth amendments:

Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

The founders feared that some would argue that if a right was not listed in the Constitution, then it was not a right possessed by individuals and could be taken by the state. That is an argument that conservatives must deny.


64 posted on 08/14/2008 9:39:09 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Jo Nuvark
[... Are you saying that the Supreme Court of the United States really has no moral authority over just what constitutes a human being?...]

Without the counsel of Scripture, the Supreme Court cannot be trusted to make moral decisions.

Being an originalist, I do not think the SCOTUS should be making moral decisions, that's what the liberal "living document" types do.

The job of the court is to look to the constitution, as written. They do not need any moral guidance, either from "evolving standards of decency", or the Bible. It ain't their job.

If this is a problem, then it is a problem in the Constitution, and as an originalist, the Constitution is clear on how it can be changed.

I don't want nine black robed judges handing down word on high about morality. That's a liberal notion. Follow the constitution, as written, or change the parts unliked via amendment.

65 posted on 08/14/2008 9:39:35 PM PDT by jbarntt (Tagline:optional, printed after your name on post): -30-)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Not to beat a dead horse, but I was wondering last night if I was on the wrong site. It’s amazing to me that a site so obviously God-focused (per mr. robinson) has attracted so many God-hating conservatives.

I love the discourse here and absolutely expect people to disagree at times, but it sometimes feels like the site is being invaded by... oh... well, I reckon that could be the case.

I guess there better be more of us than there are of them. Or maybe we just need a big God on our side.

God is our hope... Thank you and Das for the encouragement.


66 posted on 08/14/2008 9:41:10 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: semaj; Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

[... I do not worship at the alter of government, and neither should anyone else. Instead, government should be looked upon with a suspicious eye, and constant vigilance against tyranny and corruption. After all, and I paraphrase a great Frenchman, “America did not become great because of its government, it became, and remained great because its people were good” (DeTocqueville)...]

Wonderful quote.

Thank you for clarifying my remarks. I will make some changes to that piece. By business I mean that our government (like the rest of us) should keep a balanced checkbook.


67 posted on 08/14/2008 9:41:46 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Das Outsider

Si, Amigo.

Muchas Gracias (That’s “much grass” for those of you who took the time to inhale).


68 posted on 08/14/2008 9:44:02 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Thank you for clarifying my remarks. I will make some changes to that piece. By business I mean that our government (like the rest of us) should keep a balanced checkbook.

And pick up "Democracy in America" while you're at it. ;)
69 posted on 08/14/2008 9:45:18 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Just wanted to drop by and see if any of the mug whores are attacking the pro-Life crowd for “holding onto their precious principles”.


70 posted on 08/14/2008 9:47:12 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (The McCainiac's creed: Death to America by a thousand cuts)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I understand your comments. I disagree.


71 posted on 08/14/2008 9:47:18 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Alter Kaker

If he picks a pro-abortionist for Veep, it would be hard for me to justify any level of support for his candidacy. It’s going to be pretty hard to get enthused about this race then.

But I hope he doesn’t do that.


72 posted on 08/14/2008 9:47:24 PM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: Gordon Greene
Muchas Gracias (That’s “much grass” for those of you who took the time to inhale).

Much Bono, Senior. ;)

Viva la Migra!
73 posted on 08/14/2008 9:48:49 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Gordon Greene

By the way... I’m not sure if anybody answered back, but the Supreme Court has NO moral authority to decide what constitutes anything except as it pertains to the constitution.

And if the Constitution says that “All men (mankind) are created equal” it implies both a Creator and individual worth in one tiny bite-sized phrase. Therefore, the only thing the Supreme’s (I love that group) should be making a ruling on is the context and meaning of that statement.

And the only logical conclusion they could come to is that ABORTION IS MURDER!!!

I wish folks would think before they start tearing your statement down... lotta wisdom there.


74 posted on 08/14/2008 9:51:06 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: Das Outsider; semaj; Gordon Greene

[... A student of Tocqueville? Your hope may not be in vain...]

Si Senior. Es Mui Bueno.

Seems like the shiprats have found another home.
Let’s embrace these kind brethren and make them
feel welcome. Perhaps they’ll stay a while and
then the good ship Free Republic will once more
be known for its gentility and the gentlemanly art
of persuasion.


75 posted on 08/14/2008 9:53:02 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Still the newbie... how ‘bout that last super-intelligent, well thought out statement I sent to myself was supposed to go to you.

Doh!


76 posted on 08/14/2008 9:53:44 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: Gordon Greene
And if the Constitution says that “All men (mankind) are created equal”

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say "All men are created equal."

77 posted on 08/14/2008 9:54:16 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “All men are created equal.”


Yes, I was just going to point that out.


78 posted on 08/14/2008 9:55:52 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Gordon Greene

Heh! Heh!


79 posted on 08/14/2008 9:57:16 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Seems like the shiprats have found another home. Let’s embrace these kind brethren and make them feel welcome. Perhaps they’ll stay a while and then the good ship Free Republic will once more be known for its gentility and the gentlemanly art of persuasion.

Um, let's see--somewhat literate people that don't think in bumper sticker slogans and soundbites, or the "Bomb Russia or Else," groupthink, angry liberals-in-denial crowd.

It's a toss-up. ;)
80 posted on 08/14/2008 9:58:40 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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