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EPA denies Texas' waiver request
Oil and Gas Journal ^ | August 7, 2008 | OGJ Editors

Posted on 08/07/2008 9:29:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog

HOUSTON, Aug. 7 -- The US Environmental Protection Agency has denied a request submitted by Texas Gov. Rick Perry for a 50% waiver from the federal renewable fuel standard (RFS) mandate for corn-based ethanol.

The RFS, part of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, requires increased national production of renewable biofuels to 36 billion gal/year by 2022 from 9 billion gal/year in 2008.

Perry blamed increased demand for corn-based ethanol for contributing to escalating corn prices, which he said contributes to higher food prices and also higher costs for livestock feed (OGJ Online, July 22, 2008).

EPA said it recognized that high commodity prices have economic impacts but that an extensive analysis found no compelling evidence that the RFS mandate is causing severe economic harm during the time period specified by Texas.

Current law authorizes EPA to waive the national RFS if the agency determines that the mandated biofuel volumes would cause "severe harm" to the economy or the environment.

"After reviewing the facts, it was clear this request did not meet the criteria in the law," EPA Administrator Stephen L. Johnson said during a conference call with reporters from Washington, DC, on Aug. 7.

EPA conducted detailed analysis, consulted closely with the Departments of Energy and Agriculture, and considered more than 15,000 public comments. This was the first RFS-related waiver request.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biofuel; burningfood; e85; energy; energypolicy; environment; epa; ethanol
Related: Cattle raisers disappointed with EPA decision
1 posted on 08/07/2008 9:29:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Ethanol Fraud BTTT


2 posted on 08/07/2008 9:37:13 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: smokingfrog

Perry did something I agree with? Pigs are flyin’ again.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 9:37:27 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: smokingfrog
Maybe someone can answer this question or statement, I read that bio-corn for fuel is different than food corn just like feeder corn for cattle is different than food corn for humans and this is just an excuse to drive up the cost of food corn by saying there is a shortage do to ethanol.
4 posted on 08/07/2008 9:40:08 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: Liberty Valance
Get ready to watch your food bills go even higher (no chicken in every pot).
Statement from Pilgrim's Pride

"We are extremely disappointed by the EPA's announcement that it has rejected Texas Governor Rick Perry's request for a partial waiver of the 2008 Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS). The RFS has caused feed ingredient prices to spiral out of control, inflicting extreme economic damage on food companies, and ultimately, on consumers, in the form of increased food costs.
"We expect our company's feed-ingredient costs for fiscal 2008 will increase $900 million from last fiscal year as a result of the U.S. government's failed ethanol policy. It's apparent that the government intends to blindly pursue this misguided and destructive policy despite reams of data demonstrating its negative impact on the environment, food prices, and world hunger.
"Not only are the 2008 mandates destructive, but the scheduled mandate next year will again increase another 16.7% from corn, consuming an additional 4.5% or more of the 2009-2010 corn crop than the anticipated 34% of the crop being consumed this year for ethanol production.
"While we are disappointed by our government's failure to enact a responsible and comprehensive energy policy that does not pit food against fuel, we are grateful to Gov. Perry for his leadership on this issue of national importance."

5 posted on 08/07/2008 9:43:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: guitarplayer1953
Maybe someone can answer this question or statement, I read that bio-corn for fuel is different than food corn

I think this is not that important. Even if they are different, they compete for the same arable land and for the same water and for the same labor to grow.

In other words, if the farmer grows "fuel corn" instead of the "food corn" you will still be without food corn, one way or another.

6 posted on 08/07/2008 9:54:13 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: smokingfrog

We need an ethanol revolt in this country!


7 posted on 08/07/2008 9:57:33 PM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: Greysard
EXACTLY! In Brazil, they use sugar cane. Sugar cane doesn't require the extra steps that corn does (using enzymes to break down the starch before it can be fermented). Here is an interesting artice about Tropical Maize.
8 posted on 08/07/2008 10:07:21 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: Greysard
From what I under stand is that both human corn and fuel corn has be going up in production over the last 5 years I believe that they both have keep pace with demand and the it is just a cop out. We have more land that is not being used in the USA that could be used. It’as the old deal of wheat for example. When the farmers are getting 1.65 a bushel and there is 50 loaves of bread in a bushel who is making all the money?
9 posted on 08/07/2008 10:17:11 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: guitarplayer1953

There is a shortage because regardless of what type of corn they grow for ethanol they still take up farm land that would normally be growing food corn. If a farmer, for instance, has 200 acres he puts into corn and decides to grow ethanol instead then that is 200 acres of corn not produced for human consumption of cattle consumption as the case may be. There is a finite amount of land for growing food, you can’t grow fuel on the land and expect not to lose production on the food corn.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 10:20:10 PM PDT by calex59
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To: smokingfrog

The liberals just gave you a spanking for your audacity to not dance to there tune Governor. Remember the Alamo. I was raised in NH. I will remember my State’s slogan of ‘Live Free or Die’. Too bad NH as a whole has become Massachusetts light in the judicial system. Guess we have some work to do :)


11 posted on 08/07/2008 10:41:45 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: smokingfrog
He should challenge this under the 10th amendment. How can an unelected, bureaucrat supersede the will of an elected governor?

He should just ignore the EPA, as should all duly elected state officials.

12 posted on 08/07/2008 10:47:35 PM PDT by mindburglar
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To: calex59
As I stated before we have more land that is not being used for production. In the past 5 years food corn has gone from 88 billion bushels to over 100 billion bushels and ethanol has gone from 6 billion to around 11 billion bushels. We have enough it is just a scam. Similar when a barrel of oil goes up $2 they raise the price of gas a dime when it goes down $2 they lower the price of gas a nickle.

Bread, when wheat was less than 2 dollars a bushel a loaf was 50 cents. Wheat is less than 4 dollars a bushel and a loaf is 2.50. You do the math.

13 posted on 08/07/2008 10:47:51 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: smokingfrog
and considered more than 15,000 public comments.

Am I the only one who was unaware that they were soliciting comments?

Being the typical Freeper skeptic of all things EPA, I might even suggests that they solicited comments from employees of Archer Daniels,Green Peace, and everyone living in San Francisco.

Well, there goes the price of everything edible--up, up, and away.

14 posted on 08/08/2008 2:54:31 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: guitarplayer1953

I grew up on a farm and I know there is a difference between what we called “field corn” and “sweet corn”. The corn you find in conveniently sized cans in the grocery store is sweet corn. The corn that makes tortillas, corn chips, high fructose corn syrup, etc. is mostly the same stuff.

IIRC, my dad would plant different hybrids of corn for different uses. I believe the high lysine corn for the pigs, and a different variety for the cattle. What was left over from filling the grain bins and silos was sold. Once sold it went to the highest bidder, if not already sold on contract.

So, there is sweet corn and “field corn”, oh, and popcorn. For the most part the same corn used to feed cattle is used to make corn flakes.


15 posted on 08/08/2008 3:55:37 AM PDT by MacGuffin
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To: guitarplayer1953
BS. We may have more land but someone has to own it and farm it in order for it to produce corn. We are not a totally socialized nation yet, so the government isn't going to go out and confiscate land and start producing corn for fuel.

The raising of corn for fuel is hurting food prices here and across the world. It is manufactured except in the sense the government has overstepped its powers, as it has in many cases over the last 60 years. We need to put energy production, and all business, back into the hands of the people where it belongs. The frickin' government needs to get out of our private lives and stick to the things the constitution limits them to. Please don't bother sending any more crap about corn, excess etc, etc.

16 posted on 08/08/2008 4:05:59 AM PDT by calex59
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To: smokingfrog

Texas corn burned up in the drought this year. That means that Texas, with more miles driven each year than any other state because of our far-flung geography, will be forced to compete on the open market for ethanol, thus driving up the price of corn and affecting the food bill of every family in the USA.
Texas has oil revenue, and can afford this idiocy, but the other states do not. The EPA just caused your family’s food bill to go up with their high-handed decision. The EPA, which poisoned the ground water in many states by mandating the gasoline additive MBTE, is now implementing an equally destructive law that your congressman should change. Contact that bozo who voted for the ethanol law, conjured up by Marxist enviro-nazis, possible.


17 posted on 08/08/2008 4:19:08 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t recall anyone electing the EPA. The EPA is nothing more than unelected bureaucrats making law without the consent of the people. It’s a dictatorship. Only congress, elected by the peoiple via the ballot box, can write law. The governor should tell the EPA fascists to stick it in their ear. What are they going to do? Send a battalion of New York metrosexuals to hit Texans over the head with their purses?

It’s time to stand up to the criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington.


18 posted on 08/08/2008 5:19:26 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: Liberty Valance
Hey he executed the dirt bag a coupla of days ago.
19 posted on 08/08/2008 5:21:57 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: sergeantdave

Wasn’t it Newt back in the 90s that tried to abolish the Energy Dept and the EPA?

Useless bastards, and Bush should have shown control over them. Lack of control of his own people is one of Bush’s worst legacies.


20 posted on 08/08/2008 5:27:36 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: mindburglar
“He should challenge this under the 10th amendment. How can an unelected, bureaucrat supersede the will of an elected governor?
He should just ignore the EPA, as should all duly elected state officials.”

Yeah for sure. It will be interesting to see if Perry will take this further. I don't know if the head of the EPA is an appointed position or not. But, if it is appointed, then Bush should jerk this guy out and replace him asap.

I remember back during the oil embargo of the 70’s when Congress passed the 55 mph law, some states attempted to buck it and the informed by our federal government that if they did not comply with the 55 mph law their federal funds would be held up until they did. It's my guess that's the leverage the feds would use against Perry if he should attempt to go against the ethanol regulation as well...

21 posted on 08/08/2008 5:36:13 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: snoringbear
I remember back during the oil embargo of the 70’s when Congress passed the 55 mph law, some states attempted to buck it and the informed by our federal government that if they did not comply with the 55 mph law their federal funds would be held up until they did. It's my guess that's the leverage the feds would use against Perry if he should attempt to go against the ethanol regulation as well...

It would be interesting if a state had the leverage to block federal tax withholdings from being deducted from their constituent's paychecks. "Cut us off and we cut you off".

Perhaps we need Washington to pass a simple law that, outside of military spending, all taxes collected in a jurisdiction must be spent in that same jurisdiction.

22 posted on 08/08/2008 5:39:58 AM PDT by meyer (...by any means necessary.)
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To: smokingfrog
My copy of the Constitution doesn't include "control over environment" in it anywhere...

Where does the EPA get it's power from? If Perry was anything more than a hairspray head, he'd tell the EPA to get bent...

23 posted on 08/08/2008 5:42:36 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: meyer

“It would be interesting if a state had the leverage to block federal tax withholdings from being deducted from their constituent’s paychecks. “Cut us off and we cut you off”.”

Indeed it would. It’s my guess that Texas is one of the states that pays more taxes to the fed’s than it gets back through federal funding. So, it would be a net gain in revenue for Texas. I say let’s go for it and see what happens...


24 posted on 08/08/2008 6:32:05 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: Liberty Valance
Perry did something I agree with? Pigs are flyin’ again.

Ya gotta wonder what's going on.

He didn't cave in to the state dept over that mexican scum he let be executed the other day either.

25 posted on 08/08/2008 9:06:05 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: calex59

I/m with you get all the farmers off the federal teat


26 posted on 08/08/2008 12:33:18 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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