An Israeli in Kosovo

Michael J. Totten's Middle East Journal ^ | August 4, 2008 | Michael J. Totten

[DTA]

1. How many Kosovo Jews were saved in Kosovo by Albanians 1941-44?

2. How many Kosovo Jews were rounded up in Kosovo by Albanians 1941-44 and sent to death camps or killed outright?

3. How many Kosovo Jews there are today in Kosovo?

You DO know the answer and try to obfuscate the issue - Support of Kosovo Albanians to The Holocaust and Holocaust revisionism of shills paid by narcoterrorist money.

[Diocletian]

You just can’t stop making a fool out of yourself. Every time you get corrected on history you simply choose to forget it and repeat the same nonsense over and over again.

[Bokababe]

"Every time you get corrected on history you simply choose to forget it and repeat the same nonsense over and over again."

If you really meant that every time that you demand that I regurgitate your revisionist view of Croatian history, I refuse -- then you'd be absolutely correct.

[Diocletian]

Wrong again.

You made the ridiculous claim that NDH somehow was in favour of the SS Handzar Division when the fact of the matter is that Pavelic protested greatly against its creation and sent his point man Vrancic to Hitler on this matter.

Pavelic was opposed to the SS Handzar since its purpose was to create a wholly Muslim unit that Bosnian Muslims would use to detach Bosnia from NDH and put under German administration.

The best book on the subject of the SS Handzar is "Himmler's Bosnian SS Division" by George Lepre, an American author.

Now that you've been corrected yet again on this one fact, let's see if you learn from it.

[Celebratelife008]

This article is a hot topic over at LGF, where some are “silenced” if they don’t agree with the anti-Serb blog master, Charles...here is a very cogent rebuttal to this article...but only for those who are not consume with anti-Serb bias.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022114.php#comments

[Bokababe]

"You made the ridiculous claim that NDH somehow was in favour of the SS Handzar Division when the fact of the matter is that Pavelic protested greatly against its creation and sent his point man Vrancic to Hitler on this matter."

Yeah, "ridiculous", that's why there are WWII photos of Muslim Handzar with the Croatian Ustase patches on their sleeves and Pavelic wearing the Muslim fez. And today, many Croats still celebrate their cooperation with "A Toast to Croat Muslim Ustase" "Ridiculous", indeed!

Just who do you think that you are fooling, Dio? The Croat and Muslim fascists are & were in bed together -- then and now.

[Hoplite]

A simple acknowledgement that you were wrong in regards to Albania would suffice, DTA.

[Bokababe]

Thanks, Celebrate, I’ll check it out!

BB

[DTA]

>>>>>>A simple acknowledgement that you were wrong in regards to Albania would suffice, DTA.<<<<

This is an oblique acqnowledgement that I am right about Kosovo and Kosovo Albanians, and Holocaust revisionism spewed in this article. Albania is NOT a theme of this article.

[Diocletian]

The Handzar did not wear Ustashe insignia.

You keep screwing up your facts.

[Bokababe]

"The Handzar did not wear Ustashe insignia.

So then, the Muslims in these photos with the fez were just "Honorary Croat Ustase of the Muslim Faith"?

WWII Catholic Croatia handing out the government-issued fez to these Muslims and Pavelic even donning one himself to show fascist-lunatic-killer solidarity?

Yeah, I can imagine why Pavelic would be so sorry to lose these Honorary Croat Muslims to their own SS Division (sponsored by the Mufti of Jerusalem) after he had already trained them as efficient killers of Serbs and Jews for his own German-backed government.

[Diocletian]

The Handzar were not Ustashe. The Handzar was an SS unit under German officers and part of the German army, not the Croatian army nor Ustashe.

Yeah, I can imagine why Pavelic would be so sorry to lose these Honorary Croat Muslims to their own SS Division (sponsored by the Mufti of Jerusalem) after he had already trained them as efficient killers of Serbs and Jews for his own German-backed government.

I'm gonna repeat myself for the last time since you seem intent on remaining ignorant:

The Handzar was an SS unit first proposed by Heinrich Himmler. NDH opposed the creation of the Handzar since Bosnian Imams sought to use this division as a nucleus of a force in which to take Bosnia out of NDH and put it under direct German rule. Pavelic protested and sent his point man Vrancic to meet with Hitler. Hitler agreed to some of Pavelic's demands and allowed some non-Muslims into the unit. On training in Villefranche in the south of France, the non-Muslims of the unit rebelled in what is known as the "revolte de la Croates".

The Handzar were under the German army, not the Croatian army. When they returned to Eastern Bosnia, they fought together with Serbian Chetniks in anti-Partisan sweeps in northeastern Bosnia.

You can read all about the Handzar in this book and cure your brain of its ignorance:

[Bokababe]

No, you are avoiding my question by repeating that "Handzar are not Ustase".

I'll write it bold so you can read it reeeeeeeeeeeaalllllllll sloooooooooooow:

Who are these WWII Bosnian Muslims with the fez and the Ustasa insignia on their arm? Are they Muslim Croatian Ustasa or are they Handzar? And why in the hell is Pavelic wearing a Muslim fez?

Because whether they are Ustasa in the photo or whether they are Handzar, these are the same Bosnian Muslims who ultimately became the SS Handzar Division!

[Celebratelife008]

Gee...the fez is clear...the ustashe emblem on the arm is clear...is the fez the ww2 headress of the ustashe?
Clarify, please...I know dio is on a mission to ‘set the record straight’ as he previously stated..must be hell when the truth keeps getting in the way....

[Bokababe]

"Gee...the fez is clear...the ustashe emblem on the arm is clear...is the fez the ww2 headress of the ustashe?

Thank you! The sound of my own echo asking Dio that same question was beginning to bore even me!

[Bokababe]

By the way, the two people mentioned in that video have interesting histories --- especially the second one Muslim Dzaferbeg Kulenovic. Here's an excerpt from Wiki:

Dr. Džafer beg Kulenović (1891 - 1956) was a the Vice President of the Independent State of Croatia during World War II. He also became President of Yugoslav Muslim Party, the largest Bosniak Muslim political party, following the death of Dr. Mehmed Spaho in 1939.....

He became the vice-president of the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) on November 7, 1941 and held the position to war's end. He had actually succeeded his older brother Osman Kulenović in this position.

After the fall of the NDH, Kulenovic immigrated to Syria. He lived there until his death on October 3, 1956 in Damascus. While in Syria the Croats in Argentina published a collection of his journalistic writings. In 1950 the Moslem in Chicago published a speech he wrote for a Muslim Congress following World War Two in Lahire he was unable to attend as a twenty-two page pamphlet entitled "A Message of Croat Moslems to Their Religious Brethren in the World." ......

His grandson also named Dzafer, is now one of the main Bosniak leaders in North America serving as the Vice President of the North American Congress of Bosniaks, the largest Bosnian organization in the USA, the President of the Islamic Cultural Center in Northbrook, Illinois (the oldest Bosniak mosque in North America), and as a member of the Governing Board of the Democratic Action Party in Sarajevo.

There's the great irony to me -- virtually all the Serbs that I know, came to America to be Americans and raise Americans, not to continue some political bull from "the old country" from over here all the way into the third generation!

I interviewed Karl Malden (a Serb American) five years ago and he said that the greatest honor that every Serb immigrant who worked in the US mines and the mills like dogs, aspired to, was to one day, many generations in the future, to produce a US president that would make America proud! And I agreed with him.

Geez.... Serbs are really "slow", aren't they? That level of disrespect (of using America as a "tool") just never occurred to them!

[Bokababe]

OK, now this gets even more interesting!

The grandson of this former WWII Ustase, Dzaferbeg Kulenovic, (whose name is also Dzafer), is "the President of the Islamic Cultural Center in Northbrook, Illinois (the oldest Bosniak mosque in North America)". When I looked up that Islamic Cultural Center in Northbrook Illinois", here's what I found -- The Supreme Islamic Council of America!

So following this from the beginning, the WWII Balkan Croatian Ustase -- both Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslms -- escape into the diaspora post-war -- to Europe, the Middle East and America. Two generations later, their children and grandchildren work in concert with one another again. Collectively, they even hire the same PR firm to trash the Serbs. Croatia gets independence. The Bosnian and Albanian Muslims establish a beachhead in the Balkans and grow here in America.

Even Mohammed Sacirbey, the Bosnian Ambassador during the 1990's, was the son of a Muslim activist who together with Bosnian preisdent Alija Izetbovic was jailed for producing a journal called (in English) "Mujahaddin". But both Sacribey's father and Izetbegovic had been supporters of the fascist Croatian Ustase.

So it took two generations, but the WWII Croat Catholic, Bosnian and Albanian Muslim fascists, returned for an encore performance and no one saw the connection!

[bayouranger]

Thanks BB!

The ISNA is truly a terrorist affiliated org that must be stopped.

[Diocletian]

You've got it wrong there. The Chicago Kulenovic rejects any Croatian nationality for the Bosnian Muslims, and insists that his own family are Germanic in origin.

Izetbegovic was never a supporter of NDH either. He supported the Handzar, whose Imam officers were anti-NDH.

[Diocletian]

Can you please post the "Ustasha emblem"? It better not be a Croatian Grb since that wasn't an Ustasha emblem but rather a Croatian national emblem. The Ustasha emblem was the letter "U".

The Handzar were not Ustashe, were not part of the Croatian army, nor did they wear any Ustasha emblems.