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Chinese immigrant in bus beheading dined on victim
AFP ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 2:14:48 PM PDT by pissant

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To: Zetman

Thank you. I guess i should have read the article. I was aware of the incident from various sources but no details.

Still reprehensible.


41 posted on 08/05/2008 6:23:21 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Any responses from the people who were sure he’d be a Muslim?

Is there the slightest possibility that there are reasons someone might assume a crime involving a beheading would likely be committed by a Muslim?

42 posted on 08/05/2008 6:29:55 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: pissant

Uncontrolled immigration of the mentally ill can result in, ummm, problems....


43 posted on 08/05/2008 6:46:40 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: citizenK

True, from the witness accounts there was no warning of the attack. Hard to believe there was absoultely no planning on his part, though, since the victim was asleep.

Did you see this eyewitness account?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkrHkHxHPIM


44 posted on 08/05/2008 7:33:39 PM PDT by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your tax dollars)
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Any responses from the people who were sure he’d be a Muslim?

Can you think of any reason they should?

45 posted on 08/05/2008 9:16:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
most Uyghurs seem to have names that look a lot the names Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan/Etceterastan.

True, but some have Arabized those names, some have not. More of the detainees seem to have done so than the other Uyghurs on that page.

However while most Uyghurs are Muslim, not all Chinese Muslims are Uyghurs. Some are even Han.

Time will tell. All we can say now is that this guy's actions resemble those of a member of the ROP who gets SJS.

46 posted on 08/06/2008 4:44:27 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Time will tell. All we can say now is that this guy's actions resemble those of a member of the ROP who gets SJS.

Time will indeed tell, but after seeing the contortions some people went through here to put the Virginia Tech shooter into that basket, along with every other lunatic who has gone on a killing spree in the western world over the last seven years, only to have them almost all turn out to be regular old homicidal lunatics, I'll put my money on that turning out to be the case here, as well.

47 posted on 08/06/2008 4:51:37 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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Time will indeed tell, but after seeing the contortions some people went through here to put the Virginia Tech shooter into that basket, along with every other lunatic who has gone on a killing spree in the western world over the last seven years, only to have them almost all turn out to be regular old homicidal lunatics, I'll put my money on that turning out to be the case here, as well.

How many of them "cut the neck" of heir victims, meaning decapitated them. (Other than as a part of general dismembering of the body to aid getting rid of it)

48 posted on 08/06/2008 9:42:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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How many decapitations have there been among the small group of SJS attacks? Any? The only ones I can think of have been in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and came at the end of a lengthy kidnapping, not as a sudden, individual outburst.


49 posted on 08/07/2008 9:20:11 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
How many decapitations have there been among the small group of SJS attacks? Any? The only ones I can think of have been in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and came at the end of a lengthy kidnapping, not as a sudden, individual outburst.

Good point. But it is still a Koranic command to "Cut their necks".

From the usc.edu compendium of Muslim Texts:

008.012 YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

I did a bit of research, and found that there are several distinct groups of "Chinese" Muslims. One is ethnically (meaning physically, not culturally) indistinguishable from other Han Chinese. Although they are called "Hui" people. They speak the same language as the Han and dress very much the same, with he exception the women covering their heads. They also have adapted the Han cuisine to fit the Islamic dietary restrictions. Some have distinctive names, others do not.

Another group is the Uighurs, who are ethnically Turkic, (like the Kirghiz). Much of the current attention is focused on this more "unruly" group.

50 posted on 08/07/2008 8:51:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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