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Catalyst heralded as solar-power breakthrough
nature ^ | 7/31/08 | Katharine Sanderson

Posted on 07/31/2008 6:17:35 PM PDT by Flavius

It sounds almost too good to be true — but chemists believe they have made a key breakthrough that would allow them to mimic photosynthesis and solve the world’s energy crisis.

Daniel Nocera and Matthew Kanan at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge have discovered a simple, inexpensive system that can help to split water to produce oxygen and hydrogen gas. The process could, they suggest, be powered by solar photovoltaic cells. electrolysisA snapshot showing the new, efficient oxygen catalyst in action in Dan Nocera's laboratory at MIT.MIT/NSF

This would give a crucial boost to solar power’s potential to replace fossil fuels, because it adds the ability to both trap and then store the Sun’s energy in a readily accessible form.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


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KEYWORDS: energy; free; solarpower; thetoothfairy
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1 posted on 07/31/2008 6:17:36 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

I hope so. If this thing pans out, inexpensive hydrogen should replace our dependence on foreign oil.


2 posted on 07/31/2008 6:19:37 PM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson

An invention is touted each week to save us from “dirty oil and coal”. I wouldn’t put much stock in it.


3 posted on 07/31/2008 6:23:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Oh common you crazy man...

this article had everything MIT, scientist, and solar all in one paragraph

its gold Jerry gold


4 posted on 07/31/2008 6:24:17 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: Flavius

related:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2054612/posts


5 posted on 07/31/2008 6:26:40 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: Flavius

“It sounds ALMOST too good to be true — but chemists BELIEVE they have made a key breakthrough “

Where’s the “not this shite again” guy?


6 posted on 07/31/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Edward Watson
I hope so. If this thing pans out, inexpensive hydrogen should replace our dependence on foreign oil.

How do you make plastics and other petroleum products out of hydrogen and oxygen?

7 posted on 07/31/2008 6:27:49 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Edward Watson
check out this forum on splitting water into hydroxy. Oxygen and hydrogen brown gas fed into a cars air intake will increase the output of mpg by 30%-50%.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hydroxy/
and
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
Check out the Smack Booster

8 posted on 07/31/2008 6:29:41 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: Flavius

Gold, Jerry! Gold!
9 posted on 07/31/2008 6:33:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
How do you make plastics and other petroleum products out of hydrogen and oxygen?

Who cares? It sounds great!

10 posted on 07/31/2008 6:33:29 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (~in vino veritas~)
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To: Flavius

Just hoping it’s better than “cold fusion”......


11 posted on 07/31/2008 6:36:01 PM PDT by Enchante (Obambi goes to GERMANY to apologize for unwarranted (sic) aggression!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Soybeans.


12 posted on 07/31/2008 6:47:42 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Army Air Corps

Your new invention killed! It totally killed!

13 posted on 07/31/2008 6:59:08 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Flavius
Notice how short the half-life of any cheers or clapping of the left/enviros will be about this great news. It is because left/enviros are agitating for more to suppress the power and prosperity of the US than to preserve the environment.
14 posted on 07/31/2008 7:00:21 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Lee'sGhost

I don’t know, not saying it is true but this isn’t some guy in a garage in Ohio claiming he has just built a 200 mpg car, or the various announcements of what carbon nano-tubes can do.


15 posted on 07/31/2008 7:00:47 PM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually its eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: Edward Watson
I hope so. If this thing pans out, inexpensive hydrogen should replace our dependence on foreign oil.

Hydrogen is a fine fuel for things like the space shuttle but for cars there is a fairly annoying problem of energy density.

Hydrogen does not have nearly the BTU potential per pound as gasoline.

Then there is the problem of space. Hydrogen must be stored under pressure in a cylinder or as a cryogenic fluid. There is a hi-tech idea of hydrated salts but that is expensive requires heat to drive off the hydrogen which lowers the efficiency of the system.

Regardless of which of these methods you use you can not match the energy carrying capacity in a car using gasoline if you are using hydrogen which means you can not match the driving range. In other words if you are taking a trip in a hydrogen car you will make more pit stops than a person driving the same car fueled by gasoline.

Some people may argue but I also do not consider hydrogen to be as safe as gasoline. But strictly speaking the flash point of hydrogen is considerably lower than gasoline.

16 posted on 07/31/2008 7:14:45 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Flavius

Forget it. It may take ten years.


17 posted on 07/31/2008 7:21:20 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Pontiac

“Hydrogen does not have nearly the BTU potential per pound as gasoline.”

Much worse per cubic foot, too.


18 posted on 07/31/2008 7:22:17 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Pontiac
Hydrogen does not have nearly the BTU potential per pound as gasoline.

Hydrogen has triple the BTU's of gasoline per pound.
19 posted on 07/31/2008 7:23:52 PM PDT by WackySam (The Constitution is not an a la carte menu.)
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To: Flavius

Let’s see if i understand what the breakthrough is...

1. they use photovoltaic cells to generate low voltage electricity (nothing new here)

2. they use that electricity to separate H and O in water that has their NEW catalyst. The catalyst supposedly allows the hydrolysis to take place at lower voltages than would otherwise be possible. This is their BIG BREAKTHROUGH.

3. The little research that I’ve done indicates that the minimum voltage needed for hydrolysis (without any catalysts) is about 1.24V. A typical solar cell generates .55V.

4. So, why can’t you stick 3 solar cells in series and accomplish the same thing without the catalyst?

Question - what am I missing??


20 posted on 07/31/2008 7:31:59 PM PDT by aquila48
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