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Overview Background: For decades, civil libertarians have battled with defenders of the 43-foot-tall cross atop Mount Soledad, leading to ballot propositions, lawsuits and a takeover by the federal government – all over the issue of whether the display on public land is constitutional.

What's changing: A federal judge ruled yesterday that the cross is more a secular memorial to war veterans than a statement promoting religion. He said the cross can stay on federal land.

The future: Opponents of the cross are considering whether to appeal.

Online: Read the judge's 36-page ruling at uniontrib.com/more/documents.

1 posted on 07/30/2008 11:56:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Online: Read the judge’s 36-page ruling at uniontrib.com/more/documents.

http://www.uniontrib.com/more/documents


2 posted on 07/30/2008 11:56:59 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
For decades, civil libertarians have battled

These ACLU people are not 'civil libertarians'.

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4 posted on 07/30/2008 12:07:16 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Moving to La Jolla this weekend, my wife accepted a teaching position at a school which is just below this cross; I look forward to seeing it again soon.
5 posted on 07/30/2008 12:08:30 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: NormsRevenge

I can see this being won on appeal in a close decision at the Supreme Court with the pro-cross side winning. If not, simply sell the land to a non-profit veterans group and it becomes private land and the ACLU jerks can go pound sand until it turns to glass.


6 posted on 07/30/2008 12:12:30 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Never pick a fight with an ugly person; they've got nothing to lose.)
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To: NormsRevenge
“s critics complain it's unconstitutional “

There are no critics - it was one critic that sued. He was an atheist. The people of the city voted many times to keep it and this one guy kept it in the court system. I believe however he recently died and is worm food.

7 posted on 07/30/2008 12:16:30 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: NormsRevenge

suck on that Anti-Christian Lawyers Union.


10 posted on 07/30/2008 12:19:54 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: NormsRevenge; zot

Perhaps the next target of the athiests will be the letter “T” since it is in the form of a cross, thus showing making every piece of printed paper a “religious symbol.”

Fear the Cross, Fear the “T” -— and then they can campaign against t-shirts!


13 posted on 07/30/2008 12:31:21 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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14 posted on 07/30/2008 12:36:07 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: NormsRevenge
Why is this even in Federal court? The Federal judiciary has NO JURISDICTION over religion in the states. It is a violation of the 1st and 10th Amendments. No state or local official is required to answer or appear at any Federal hearing on the matter.

I am so sick of the surrender to Federal judges. Someone please read the Constitution!

15 posted on 07/30/2008 12:51:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: NormsRevenge
"The central fact of the case is I lost to a cross,” said David Blair-Loy. "Because I wasn't good enough...Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww."

Cheer up David, I'll bet your great-grand-children will enjoy it.

17 posted on 07/30/2008 1:50:39 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: NormsRevenge

LiMandri is a jerk.


18 posted on 07/30/2008 1:54:23 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Racist, Charismatic Leader Promises Hope, Change and Socialism? USA, 2008 or Germany, 1932?)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess the 9th Circus is next.


22 posted on 07/30/2008 6:43:14 PM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: Travis McGee

FE ping...


25 posted on 07/31/2008 6:04:57 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: NormsRevenge
” civil libertarians have battled with defenders of the 43-foot-tall cross atop Mount Soledad...”

These people are not libertarians. They are atheists and Jews who, for whatever reason, get their kicks by tormenting Christians. True libertarians couldn't care less about religious symbols on public lands.

PS. the ACLU is a socialist organization.

PPS. How pathetic are these people who have nothing better to do than file lawsuits trying to get a cross removed? They must be sad, miserable people.

27 posted on 07/31/2008 1:25:11 PM PDT by monday
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