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S.F. slaying of dad, sons called gang related
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 7/29/8 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 07/29/2008 10:24:10 AM PDT by SmithL

The fatal shootings of a father and two sons in San Francisco's Excelsior district June 22 were not road-rage killings and instead were motivated by the killer's belief that his targets were in a rival gang, the head of the police homicide unit said Monday.

"We know it is gang related," Lt. Mike Stasko told the Board of Supervisors' Public Safety Committee. Stasko said the victims, Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons, Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, were attacked because of their appearance.

"Apparently, the people in the car were similar to Hispanic males, and they were targeted because of (seemingly) being Hispanic males.

"It had nothing to do with road rage," Stasko said.

The Bolognas were gunned down in their Honda Civic as they were heading home from a Sunday afternoon family barbecue in Fairfield. Edwin Ramos, 21, has pleaded not guilty to triple murder charges.

Police initially said the shooting was the product of road rage after a chance encounter between the two drivers. Tony Bologna had to stop his car on narrow Congdon Street and blocked the path of a car that was turning onto the street, police said.

As Stasko, who coached youth basketball with Bologna, described it the day after the shootings, the other driver stared at Bologna, who backed up his car to let the other vehicle by. The driver then drove alongside and, without a word, opened fire.

But on Monday, Stasko told reporters the Bolognas were attacked because the killer mistook the victims for gang members. The Bologna boys, he said, had short hair and were wearing baseball caps sideways.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; anthonybologna; communismkills; coverup; cultureofcorruption; cya; democratscandals; donutwatch; gangbangers; gangs; hatecrime; illegalaliens; immigration; politicalcorrectness; sanctuarycity; sanfranciscovalues; sanfransicko
- Anthony Bologna, left, and his two sons, Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, were shot and killed on Sunday, June 22, 2008 in San Francisco
1 posted on 07/29/2008 10:24:11 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: NormsRevenge

Just a soccer team, huh?


2 posted on 07/29/2008 10:26:06 AM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: SmithL

Looks like the cover-up machine is out in full force.


3 posted on 07/29/2008 10:26:55 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: SmithL

Thank heavens, that explains everything.
For a moment there I was worried that Gavin and his friends blew it.


4 posted on 07/29/2008 10:27:07 AM PDT by Hans
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To: SmithL

Not road rage?

Well, our diversity is our strength....


5 posted on 07/29/2008 10:27:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SmithL

San Francisco, the city of morons.
PLEASE let there be an earthquake soon.


6 posted on 07/29/2008 10:28:32 AM PDT by Havok (MOLON LABE!!!!)
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To: SmithL

Well,that is a relief! We thought he was just a murderous thug who shot some people for dissing him.
So, that means the sanctuary city policy is right and will continue.


7 posted on 07/29/2008 10:28:51 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

JUST READING THE ARTICLE MAKES IT SOUND AS THOUGH THAT BEING “GANG RELATED” MAKES IT OKAY SOMEHOW..................


8 posted on 07/29/2008 10:28:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: SmithL
uh, who cares if it was gang related, road rage, or a hate crime! Three people are dead because an illegal alien was allowed to stay in this country because of SF liberal policies!
9 posted on 07/29/2008 10:29:34 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: Post-Neolithic
This is about FBI statistics and federal funding. Say it's gang related and you get more money and you don't have “illegal murdered family for the hell of it” on the books anymore.
10 posted on 07/29/2008 10:29:37 AM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: SmithL
The Bologna boys... had short hair and were wearing baseball caps sideways.

Oh, well, if ever there was a reason to kill strangers...(sigh)

11 posted on 07/29/2008 10:31:15 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Red Badger

My thought exactly. The excuses begin. This is a horrible crime. I really feel for the Mother—her whole life ended in an instant due to PC politics. I can’t even being to imagine her rage. Very tragic.


12 posted on 07/29/2008 10:32:09 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: SmithL

Translation: “The killings were nothing personal. It was just business.”

...And is that file photo of the victims supposed to tell us that they somehow had it coming???


13 posted on 07/29/2008 10:34:21 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SmithL

The wife and mother of these victims should sue the city of San Francisco, the Mayor and the Board of Stupidvisors into abject poverty for implementing “Sanctuary City” as a blank check for illegal alien thugs — sue them until they can’t even afford to buy toilet paper to wipe their bleeding asses.


14 posted on 07/29/2008 10:35:09 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Red Badger

“Apparently, the people in the car were similar to Hispanic males, and they were targeted because of (seemingly) being Hispanic males.”

Notice that they are trying to portray this as a hate crime against Hispanics, even though the victims were not Hispanic, but the perp was.

To the SF liberals, this is red meat... Stereotyping based on appearance or racial characteristics kills. That’s the only lesson they take from this.


15 posted on 07/29/2008 10:35:34 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: rbg81

In my openion she is not enraged enough. She has the tv coverage, she should be out there screaming to anyone that will listen that she is sueing the city of San Francisco, California, the Feds, and anyone else remotely involved who ‘allowed’ an illegal alien gangbanger to murder her family.
The whole world would know that illegals should be deported period if I had her platform. I would make it my life’s mission.


16 posted on 07/29/2008 10:44:30 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SmithL

Not a hate crime though

Now, if the boys had been wearing dresses....


17 posted on 07/29/2008 10:44:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Red Badger
MAKES IT OKAY SOMEHOW

Bad guys killing bad guys or so they would have us think.

18 posted on 07/29/2008 10:56:50 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: Red Badger
MAKES IT OKAY SOMEHOW

Bad guys killing bad guys or so they would have us think.

19 posted on 07/29/2008 10:56:57 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: rbg81
I can’t even being to imagine her rage

Me, either, but I'd like to see her sue SF for gazillions for what their "sanctuary city" policy has done to her...............

20 posted on 07/29/2008 11:02:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Brilliant

This is a re-direction of the attention of the dumb masses’ about the cause and effect of their sanctuary city policy..........


21 posted on 07/29/2008 11:04:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: txroadkill

BINGO!!!!!


22 posted on 07/29/2008 11:10:19 AM PDT by waxer1 (What exactly is meant by "we are going to take our country back")
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To: tbpiper

Except that the family wasn’t involved in a gang. The psycho killer illegal just thought they were -— and that was enough reason for him to execute three innocent people.


23 posted on 07/29/2008 11:14:04 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole
Can't imagine what life must be like down there. Maybe they should reconsider how the chicoms do it; 100 criminal public executions; bullet to back of head with the criminals family being forced to pay for the bullet.

Everybody carrys guns in our town, mainly for bear. You'd think there'd be a drunken shooting now and then. Hasn't been a murder here in over 25 years and that guy was drown. We even had a mexican family here once, they were decent enough people; just couldn't take the winters I think.

Somethings gotta change down there.

24 posted on 07/29/2008 11:30:07 AM PDT by Eska
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To: SmithL
Police have said they believe Ramos belongs to MS-13, a street gang with ties to his native El Salvador. Federal authorities said deportation proceedings against him were pending at the time of the slayings. But his lawyer, Robert Amparan, said last week that Ramos was in the United States legally.

Yeah, right. I'll bet you anything he was an illegal in the US "legally", at this point in time, probably requesting asylum as he'd be killed (as a gang member) if returned to El Salvador.

25 posted on 07/29/2008 11:33:27 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: SmithL

If this was gang related that should make it even more condemning of SF’s sanctuary city policies. In California, Hispanics are the overwhelming majority of illegal aliens, and WELL represented in the gang activity in California cities.

So, an Hispanic illegal alien gang member murders three people who he mistakenly believed were also members of Hispanic gangs because of their appearance?

Yep, those supporting sanctuary city policies are much more to blame in that scenario than in a road rage scenario.


26 posted on 07/29/2008 11:33:55 AM PDT by Will88
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To: MediaMole
Except that the family wasn’t involved in a gang.

At least that part of the story got out first. I think the 'gang related' phrase carries a lot of unfortunate connotations with it

27 posted on 07/29/2008 11:34:01 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: Post-Neolithic

Agreed.

When something smells odd, my first instinct is to hold my nose. If this were anywhere but SanFran, I might give “CYA” a bit more doubt.


28 posted on 07/29/2008 11:49:08 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: SmithL

It’s just a case of “mistaken identity”..

Oh yeah, unloading on folks you don’t like in plain daylight with AK47s.. this is not the first time in San Fran.

DA Kamala Harris ought to be feeling a lot of heat on this one.. not so long a go, one cop killer using an ak47 didn’t get tried for capital murder cuz the lady DA doesn’t support it.

I wonder if 3 family members, innocents, blown away on a SF street, by a sanctuary city beneficiary, might want to make her think twice this time around , I’d prefer she just resign and let some one up to the job get it done.


29 posted on 07/29/2008 12:00:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: MediaMole
Except that the family wasn’t involved in a gang. The psycho killer illegal just thought they were -— and that was enough reason for him to execute three innocent people.

and that seems to make it all excusable to the good people in the Establishment in San Francisco.

30 posted on 07/29/2008 12:10:10 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: SmithL

Still a ‘hate crime’. . .or are ‘gang related’ murders sort of ‘ok’. . .like Islamic ‘Honor’killings. . .


31 posted on 07/29/2008 12:14:00 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: NormsRevenge
The DA and others in the San Fran elite will excuse all these crimes until three or four of them get their homes invaded and their relatives killed. Then they will react- by hiring an army of private guards at city expense while still excusing the illegals because they are illegals and because they are criminals. To the left the criminals are Social Allies because they keep the middle class and other enemies of the state preoccupied with their own survival and easier to manipulate and control i.e terrorized.
32 posted on 07/29/2008 12:15:26 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: SmithL

There was a time when “gang related” meant gang on gang violence.

They (SF) are probably trying to divert attention from the very last portion of the article.


33 posted on 07/29/2008 1:01:11 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: SmithL
Stasko told reporters the Bolognas were attacked because the killer mistook the victims for gang members. The Bologna boys, he said, had short hair and were wearing baseball caps sideways.


Well, that explains it. It was the victims' fault for provoking that poor young gang member. Give that man an apology.

/sarcasm
34 posted on 07/29/2008 1:35:02 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

sanctuary city....isn’t that just precious????pathetic


35 posted on 07/29/2008 7:39:14 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but interested and informed)
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To: sheana
She has the tv coverage, she should be out there screaming to anyone that will listen that she is sueing the city of San Francisco, California, the Feds, and anyone else remotely involved who ‘allowed’ an illegal alien gangbanger to murder her family.

Unfortunately, the only word we haven't been hearing - at least not from the family - is "lawsuit." They need to sue SF for every dime they have. Money is the ONLY thing these people understand, and the only motivator that may change some of these ridiculous laws.

36 posted on 07/30/2008 4:56:37 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: SmithL

Reviewing this article on the Bologna murders, I looked for the heart-rending, sordid journalistic `flair’, as detailed below (in the thread the mod just killed) but it’s just not there:

“By the time help arrived, Luis Ramirez lay convulsing in the middle of the street, foam running from his mouth.

Crystal Dillman displays the religious medal worn by her fiance, Luis Ramirez, who died from a beating.

1 of 3 Blows had struck the 25-year-old Mexican immigrant with such force that they left a clotted, bruised impression of Jesus Christ on the skin of his chest from the religious medal he wore.

His attackers were white teenagers, including star students and football players, witnesses told police.

After a night of drinking, the teens taunted the undocumented worker with racial epithets, pummeled him to the ground and then kicked him in the head, court documents charge. He died in a hospital two days later.”


37 posted on 07/31/2008 9:34:11 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: All

I think this is appauling. I just heard about this tragedy caused by an illegal who twice the city had the opportunity to deport and did not.

I just found about about this today and I’m amazed that I had to read it Newt’s newsletter, otherwise I wouldn’t have known about it. I would assume that Fox News would be talking about this night and day. It’s quite puzzling that they aren’t.

Anyway, there’s a link to the LA Times story: http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-me-sanctuary26-2008jul26,0,3980668.story


38 posted on 08/05/2008 6:58:01 PM PDT by dajeeps
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