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Nobama's Civilian National Security Forces Explained? (This is Scary)
http://www.anewtone.com ^ | July 23, 2008 | snooper

Posted on 07/27/2008 9:41:34 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

HT goes to the JPA Live BTR Show and Danger Girl for an article in Military Times, which is owned by Gannett which also publishes the USA Today newspaper. I called your attention to the MT's affiliation because the MT in no way and by no means whatsoever is linked to the "official" military news outlets. All "official" news outlets of the military are either .org or .gov. Any alleged military news outlet which has a .com or a .net designator should be taken with a grain of salt - or something of a lesser value. This, however, does not apply to blogs or bloggers for the obvious - even to the oblivious - reasons. To perform a back-check, please visit this site.

Now that the disclaimer has been provided, we will now take a look at this interview by USA Today staffers with Barack Obama, giving the inference that the military is interviewing Barack Insane Hussein Obama. Scurrilous does not even come close to the implications here, does it?

In this interview the following question was asked:

Q: You said you don't want to rob Peter to pay Paul, so how are you going to pay Paul? Troop increases are an enormous expense. To arrive at the full intent and the presented answer - if you can call it that - one will have to read the entire interview. This interview is a near prefect case study for a pretty verbiage explanation as to how the would-be First Czar of the newly formed USSA (with a "k") will decimate the now United States Armed Forces. He claims that he wants to expand the military but what he doesn't say is that he intends on taking the punch our military has away from them. We will have a bigger military with a lesser punch. This sounds counter productive to me.

In conjunction with this and before we continue with this interview by USA Today staffers, please recall this statement: (where he mentions AmeriCorps and Peace Corps as the "civilians")

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." That statement alone is scary but having it placed in context is frightening. Barack, in this interview, has placed it in context. One of the partners here at A Newt One, Loki, has stated that if Barack intends to utilize AmeriCorps and Peace Corps personnel to fill vacancies in embassies and missions "that have been boarded up", he certainly doesn't understand the United States Constitution that her has purported to have once been an instructor thereof. However, it gets worse than that. This has grown beyond the pale of frightening. Behold:

[...] I should add, by the way, that part of the change that I want when it comes to Army and Marine structures is the mix of training that we're providing and mix of personnel that are in these forces. One of the things I have been so impressed with is the heroic job that our men and women in uniform have done basically on the fly having to train themselves on the spot to function as engineers or function as social workers or function as translators or political consultants. There's just been a whole bunch of work that has been done that we haven't prepared people for. They learn on the job, but if anything Iraq should have given us a template for the kinds of skill sets that we're going to have to provide to our military. And that's true in Iraq. That's true in Afghanistan. That also means, by the way, that we're going to have to, I believe, reconfigure our civilian national security force. In a way that just hasn't been done.

I mean, we still have a national security apparatus on the civilian side in the way the State Department is structured and [Agency for International Development] and all these various agencies. That hearkens back to the Cold War. And we need that wing of our national security apparatus to carry its weight. When we talk about reinventing our military, we should reinvent that apparatus as well. We need to be able to deploy teams that combine agricultural specialists and engineers and linguists and cultural specialists who are prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas alongside our military. [...] Parse that.

This interview was published on 08 JUL 08, 6 days after his speech in Colorado Springs. However, he makes no mention of AmeriCorps or Peace Corps personnel but he does say this:

[...] Absolutely, but the only problem with soft power is the term itself makes people think it's not as strong as hard power. And my point is that if we've got a State Department or personnel that have been trained just to be behind walls, and they have not been equipped to get out there alongside our military and engage, then we don't have the kind of national security apparatus that is needed. That has to be planned for; it has to be paid for. Those personnel have to be trained. And they all have to be integrated and that is something that we have not accomplished yet, but that's going to be what's increasingly important in our future to make sure that our military has the support that it needs to do what it does the best, which is fight wars. [...] And there you have it. He is going to arm State Department Personnel so they can fight along side the United States Military. He is going to utilize AmeriCorps and Peace Corps Personnel to go into areas the US Military does to be the Agents of Change. Case closed and checkmate.

Excuse me Barack but the US Military Special Forces already handle such activities. Does the Anbar Awakening ring a bell? Our military, in special detail, has the training you are babbling about and making it sound like this is a new concept and making it sound like a good idea because you thought of it. Sorry. The US Military has already been doing this for years and decades.


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I find Hussein`s idea of his own personal cadres similar to Castro`s Committee for the Defense of the Revolution,basically a comrade to snitch on you on every street.
1 posted on 07/27/2008 9:41:35 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

More like the Nazi henchmen who had thier own private armies.
Can this guy get anymore spookier?


2 posted on 07/27/2008 9:43:52 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (RIGHT: Wots all this then?)
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To: Para-Ord.45
We need to be able to deploy teams that combine agricultural specialists and engineers and linguists and cultural specialists who are prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas alongside our military.

Our military FReepers maybe can weigh in on whether they want to have to keep an eye on civilian "cultural specialists" at the same time the soldiers or marines are trying to defeat enemy combatants.

3 posted on 07/27/2008 9:47:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Para-Ord.45
Obama, in these statements, has the makings of our very own American Mugabe.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON, BUT DON'T WANT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

4 posted on 07/27/2008 9:49:02 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; Noumenon; joanie-f; betty boop; Eaker; Grampa Dave; B4Ranch
PING. More "meat" behind Obama's Civilian Security force statement.

How special, the infancy of our very own American Mugabe [/dripping saracsm on the "special" part]

5 posted on 07/27/2008 9:51:06 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Para-Ord.45
All totalitarian regimes have there own armed forces seperate from the established military. Hitler had the gestapo. All Communists regimes had secret police. Obama’s force will serve the purpose of taking the freedoms from the American people and destroying democracy.
6 posted on 07/27/2008 9:52:45 AM PDT by detective
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To: Para-Ord.45
We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful,
just as strong, just as well funded.


7 posted on 07/27/2008 9:55:55 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Jeff Head
You're right. Whether you wish to describe Obama as the American Mugabe, the American Stalin or the American Lenin, the facts are indisputable. Obama is a leftist, totalitarian who wants to destroy our basic freeedoms.
8 posted on 07/27/2008 9:56:40 AM PDT by detective
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To: Jeff Head

'nuff said...

9 posted on 07/27/2008 10:00:02 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: detective

Not this armed and ready citizen.


10 posted on 07/27/2008 10:05:26 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Civilian National Security Forces”?I get a vivid picture in my mind.....brown shirts and jackboots:(


11 posted on 07/27/2008 10:09:18 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Para-Ord.45

This looks more like Carter II, sort of Carter on steroids.

Roman soldiers found at Pompei had construction tools on their backs. This is because the Army was used by the Romans for many civil construction projects.

Liberals have often imagined the armed forces as retasked to civil and foriegn relief missions. This would be combined with new resources dedicated to new, purely civilian agencies.

American leadership would take the form of international development. The idea is that this would generate so much good will, that we would have more power and international esteem than ever.

Carter and even Clinton learned the hard way that this “carrot only” diplomacy not only does not work, it can be disasterous in the extreme.


12 posted on 07/27/2008 10:11:21 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hmmm, I seem to recall that State Dept employees were very upset that they may be assigned to work in Iraq...for civilian work. Guess, Mr. Obama believes that he will sooooo inspire these people that they will be willing to put themselves in harm’s way, as our brave military does.

Obama’s description of his ‘civilian security force’ brings to mind a very scary time in history.....


13 posted on 07/27/2008 10:15:22 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Para-Ord.45

She was singin
Don’t turn around, oh oh
Der Kommissar’s in town, oh oh
You’re in his eye
And you’ll know why
The more you live
The faster you will die


14 posted on 07/27/2008 10:17:02 AM PDT by LRS (I want an oil glut!)
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To: LRS
You have poetic talent.

See my tag line!

Leni

15 posted on 07/27/2008 10:18:47 AM PDT by MinuteGal (A Hottie Contest In Progress on Freepathon Thread. See #'s 665 &668. Enter and be a WINNER for FR!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Brownshirts


16 posted on 07/27/2008 10:20:20 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: MinuteGal

I have a bad habit of associating aspects of stories with song lyrics I have heard over the years; ( for example, everytime I hear Obama’s name, I want to borrow “Hosanna” from the rock opera, “Jesus Christ, Superstar”, and sing: “O Bama, yo bama, MommaBama Ho, Momma Ho, Barry-o superstar...”).

Anyway, when I read this article, the first thing that popped into my sick mind were Soviet Kommissars, and then the song “Der Kommissar’s in Town”.

I’ve accepted my mind works in weird way ;)


17 posted on 07/27/2008 10:30:32 AM PDT by LRS (I want an oil glut!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Any alleged military news outlet which has a .com or a .net designator should be taken with a grain of salt - or something of a lesser value.”

Careful,.. you’re castigating http://www.mnf-iraq.com/ in that generalization


18 posted on 07/27/2008 10:31:33 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: BenLurkin

Commissars...or at least Zampolits...


19 posted on 07/27/2008 10:33:33 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: Para-Ord.45

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2052128/posts

Let’s CHALLENGE the MSM to ask him about it...


20 posted on 07/27/2008 10:35:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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