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Suspect pleads not guilty to killing dad, sons
SF Chronicle ^ | July 24, 2008 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 07/24/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by AuntB

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To: tropical

Mexico is the gathering point for viscious gangs of Central America illegals invading the US

I just read (AP) that Mexico will stop jailing criminal illegals within its borders. Illegals sans documents is now a minor offense, (Was once a crime punishable by 10 years in prison and deportation-—now a $100-500 fine).

There’s a method behind this madness——easing up makes it easier for criminals to get back into the US.

Mex/legislators say severe penalties is inconsistent with getting “better treatment” for Mex/immigrants in the US. Seems many of the invaders are robbed and abused by their countryman on their way north.


41 posted on 07/24/2008 11:13:08 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Liz; Tennessee Nana
Giving homage to **tennessee nana (quote)*

Speaking of the fall of the Roman Empire or any nation, Teddy Roosevelt said...

"The laws were the same as they had been

..but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing."

42 posted on 07/24/2008 11:14:54 AM PDT by Guenevere (America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease)
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To: SF Republican
That's very true. We have no such neighborhoods. This is, after all, America's wealthiest county.

We also don't have a zoo!

43 posted on 07/24/2008 11:19:20 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: muawiyah
This is, after all, America's wealthiest county.

actually it is #11, Marin is number 1, too bad you don't have a zoo. By the way, what is the problem with us going to the zoo on Sunday? or are you making that up too.

44 posted on 07/24/2008 11:23:01 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican
What do they put in your water ~ certainly you recall the series of threads back when the tiger ate the kid at the zoo?

Last thread on that was just a few weeks ago. Turned out they'd put the cat on a weight loss diet ~ she was hunger as a starving tiger Fur Shur.

45 posted on 07/24/2008 11:29:29 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: muawiyah
What do they put in your water ~ certainly you recall the series of threads back when the tiger ate the kid at the zoo? Are you indicating that one animal incident at the zoo is a reason crime is so high in San Francisco that people should not come here? By the way it was Christmas day not Sunday. Maybe you should put down what you are drinking.
46 posted on 07/24/2008 11:34:48 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican
Fairfax County VA is ranked #1 in terms of MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME. That figure is $100,318.

Marin County CA is #11 in that category with but $85,892.

47 posted on 07/24/2008 11:34:59 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: SF Republican

Easy enough to confuse Christmas with Sunday.


48 posted on 07/24/2008 11:36:45 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: AuntB
The defense sought the gag order after The Chronicle revealed that Ramos was an illegal immigrant who was found to have committed two felonies at age 17 - a gang-related assault of a Muni passenger and the attempted robbery of a pregnant woman - but was not surrendered by San Francisco juvenile justice authorities to federal officials for possible deportation.

Why is there no legal recourse for citizens who lose property and/or family to crime by illegals - when the illegal in question is a KNOWN criminal, yet the "authorities" do nothing, including turning them over to federal authorities (as is suppose to be the law).?

And at what point are citizens justified in taking the law into their own hands, as obviously the "authority" isn't doing its job.

49 posted on 07/24/2008 11:39:23 AM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: tflabo

It is my understanding that thug has admitted to being a passenger in the car. Of course his attorney will likely attempt to get the statement tossed.


50 posted on 07/24/2008 11:40:30 AM PDT by GSWarrior (How much global warming do I prevent if I paint flowers on my VW van?)
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To: muawiyah
Lets see you confuse Christmas with Sunday, an animal attack with civilian crime, the wealth factor of Fairfax... what by the way was correct about anything you wrote... you may not of heard of the Reston Zoo, you missed that one too.
51 posted on 07/24/2008 11:45:49 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: AuntB

Wonder what John McCain’s view is on this story....

/sarcasm


52 posted on 07/24/2008 11:58:14 AM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: Liz

The only action missing from Mexico’s change in policy about jailing their criminal illegals, is a bus or plane ticket somewhere el norte. The stories of how Mexico treats their illegal aliens have been around for years.

America is being used as a global dumping ground.


53 posted on 07/24/2008 12:02:44 PM PDT by tropical
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To: Guenevere; Tennessee Nana; arthurus; Dante3; TADSLOS; raybbr
Speaking of the fall of the Roman Empire or any nation, Teddy Roosevelt said... "The laws were the same as they had been..but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing."

Marcus Tullius Cicero Roman Statesman Speech in the Roman Senate - 42 BC:

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

54 posted on 07/24/2008 12:09:42 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: TheBattman

” Why is there no legal recourse for citizens who lose property and/or family to crime by illegals - when the illegal in question is a KNOWN criminal, yet the “authorities” do nothing, including turning them over to federal authorities (as is suppose to be the law).?

And at what point are citizens justified in taking the law into their own hands, as obviously the “authority” isn’t doing its job.”

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I don’t know how to answer your first question, except to say there are several parents of alien murdered children who have sued various responsible entities recently. I suppose it will take years to find how they’ll come out. Generally, public officials are held free of any stupid policy making. Our elected officials have seen to that.

At what point are citizens justified in taking charge of their government? Every day since 1776. In the end, it is our fault, not the ‘leaders’. We keep putting them there.

“The laws were the same as they had been, but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing.” - Teddy Roosevelt


55 posted on 07/24/2008 12:10:27 PM PDT by AuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwel)
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To: TheBattman

“Wonder what John McCain’s view is on this story....”

You’d never get a reporter to even ask. Maybe he’d give his ‘God’s children’ speech.


56 posted on 07/24/2008 12:13:08 PM PDT by AuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwel)
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To: tropical
THIS IS INTERESTING: Tennessee Nana wrote: People are actually lining up at the consulate in TX to go back to Mexico. ?? WHY would Mexican citizens have to visit their OWN consulate in order to go home to Mexico ???

(Chuckle), that's easy. Why would Mexican citizens have to visit their OWN consulate in order to go home? They had nothing when they came here from their hovels in that Third World hellhole. Now they got plenty of US dollars---AND THEIR GOVT WANTS A PERCENTAGE. The Mex-govt won't let the lettuce pickers back in (to retire in luxury at their beachfront condos bought with purloined US tax dollars) UNLESS THEY PAY UP AT THE CONSULATE.

Remember----the agit/prop was that they come here for a "better life" .....and in the process of flipping hamburgers, they cleaned out the US Treasury, looted SS, UI, Disability, EITC, Workmen's Comp, welfare, shut down numerous hospitals, sued everything in sight, and made big bucks selling drugs to American youth.

57 posted on 07/24/2008 12:18:40 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: SF Republican

Not much of a zoo. There’s also the thing near Wolf Trap. Had a giant tortoise. You could go in and walk around ~ very carefully.


58 posted on 07/24/2008 12:29:44 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: SF Republican

Driving down 19th, and seeing all the bars on the windows and doors kinda gives me the creeps.


59 posted on 07/24/2008 12:33:18 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Liz

Perfect quote for today.


60 posted on 07/24/2008 12:47:50 PM PDT by Dante3
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