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1 posted on 07/12/2008 5:30:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 07/12/2008 5:33:46 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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Human embryonic stem cells developed from 4-cell embryo; world first may lessen ethical concerns

Just because it's too small to scream doesn't mean it's not a human. I'm not impressed with the refinements of the Mingle doctrine.

3 posted on 07/12/2008 5:45:23 PM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: neverdem
...may lessen ethical concerns

NO, it won't!

5 posted on 07/12/2008 5:56:08 PM PDT by airborne (End the "open primary" system now!!! Only Republicans should vote in Republican primaries!)
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To: neverdem

Adult Stems cells have been shown to be useful. Embryonic stem cells have not.

These folks must have no souls.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 6:18:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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If the child waiting to be born was conceived 6 months or 6 minutes ago the same thing happens. A unique unrepeatable person dies. Size and age do not matter it is murder—period.

When does life begin?
We have ABSOLUTE Irrefutable truth, Scientific proof

* In 1981, a US Senate committee held hearings on when human life begins. Speaking on behalf of the scientific community was a group of internationally known geneticists and biologists who had the same story to tell, namely, that human life begins at conception - and they told their story with a profound absence of opposing testimony.

Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life begins at conception.

* "The Father of Modern Genetics" Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: "To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion ... it is plain experimental evidence. Human life begins at conception "

* Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception."

Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee, testified: "The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception."

* Dr. Landrum Shettles, sometimes called the "Father of In Vitro Fertilization" notes, "Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind." And on the Supreme Court ruling Roe v. Wade, "To deny a truth [about when life begins] should not be made a basis for legalizing abortion."

* Professor Eugene Diamond on the Supreme Court ruling Roe v. Wade: "...either the justices were fed a backwoods biology or they were pretending ignorance about a scientific certainty."

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

7 posted on 07/12/2008 8:39:15 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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9 posted on 07/12/2008 8:40:52 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: neverdem

Since it is immoral to create embryos in vitro, this is morally irrelevant.

True, if you can remove a cell without murdering the embryo, you haven’t committed murder.

But the entire process is immoral from the beginning, and every in vitro fertilization involves multiple murders.

The “public” is strongly supportive of ESCR because they’ve been bombarded with propaganda, which never includes this minor tidbit of information:

There has so far been NO medical treatment of any benefit derived from ESCR, while Adult Stem Cells are already in use in nearly 100 different successful medical treatments.

Adult Stem Cells have one huge disadvantage: They don’t provide a propaganda stick with which to beat the pro-life movement as “anti-science” and “pro-disease,” etc.


11 posted on 07/12/2008 9:39:27 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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