Posted on 07/08/2008 8:13:18 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
Make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, and you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to meet Barack backstage and watch his acceptance speech in person.
Each of the 10 selected supporters can bring a guest, and will be flown to Denver to spend two days at the convention, culminating in Barack's speech on Thursday, August 28th.
(Excerpt) Read more at donate.barackobama.com ...
Also here...
Win a date with Obama: illegal in Minnesota? (soliciting contributions for a raffle trip to Denver)
MinnPost ^ | Tuesday, July 8, 2008 | By David Brauer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2042407/posts
The five topics covered on a state-by-state basis in the chart are:
Dominant Factor Test Applied: “Chance” is one of the elements generally required to be present in order for a game to violate a state anti-gambling statute. Most states have concluded that where the elements of skill, whatever they may be, predominate over the elements of chance, whatever they may be, in determining outcome, then the “chance” element is lacking and the game involved does not violate that state’s anti-gambling law. This question considers whether the state applies this “dominant factor,” or predominance, test.
Social Gambling Allowed: The question here is whether playing for money in a purely social context is allowed,. A “social context” usually means that no player or other person, like a bookie or the host of the game, makes or earns anything other than as, and on an equal footing with, a mere player in the contest or game.
Misdemeanor vs. Felony: What constitutes a “misdemeanor” versus a “felony” is not consistent in all states. Some states distinguish on the basis of the place of possible incarceration. That is, possible sentencing to a city or county jail versus sentencing to a state penitentiary defines the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony in some jurisdictions. Most states, however, draw the distinction based on the term of the possible sentence, with a punishment of one year or less being a misdemeanor and a longer possible sentence defining a felony. The latter approach in the used in compiling the chart.
Simple vs. Aggravated: The distinction between “simple” and “aggravated” gambling is also one that varies from state to state. That terminology may not be used in a state’s criminal law at all. It may be phrased as mere “gambling” versus “professional gambling.” It may come into play only based on second or third violations of a given criminal prohibition. The approach used in compiling the chart is generally based on the presence of professional gambling, which involves those who make money on the contest or game other than as, and on an equal footing with, a mere player.
Express Internet Prohibition: The response to this question goes to whether a state has adopted a specific law criminalizing the offering and/or playing of gambling games offered over the Internet. The fact that a state has not passed a specific law does not make participation in or offering of gambling over the Internet legal under the laws of that state. The question is a complex one and is addressed in several of the articles included on this site.
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Law-Summary/
I would of had mine up sooner, but my Mom called during Mid post. :-)
There was an AP thread which was pulled. But I’m glad to see at least one state official already investigating if this is illegal by the laws of his state.
There are several states that have specific Laws for express internet gambling... Illinois, Indiana, Montana, Nevada, Michigan, New Jersey, South Dakota
Gambling is an addiction and should not be paraded around like this.
It would be as though he offered free drinks for the entire evening to an alcoholic.
Lotteries are usually okayed for Non Profit Organizations, but Lotteries , to buy a chance for a trip out of state and be put up in a Hotel, with expenses paid.. For the Obama Charity? hardly
Me too... and who knows, it might not be illegal in other states too, meanwhile Obama is taking advantage of people using a Lottery.
I guess this would be considered a lottery or raffle, but what lottery doesn’t increase your chances with amount spent?
What makes this more interesting is this is offered nationwide isn’t it? So this isn’t just social gambling where there isn’t one or more money-makers (clearly the Obama campaign is the “House” in this case).
How does offering a “prize” affect political contributions?
Especially since unlike a dinner or meet ‘n’ greet fundraiser, all participants don’t get something in return.
South Dakota’s prohibition applies to those in the “gambling business.” Is Obama in the gambling business?
Lotteries in most states are okay for Non Profit groups, but Political groups? I think this is worthy of checking out.
Additionally, what about people who have already given the “limit”, are they being “unfairly” excluded from the lottery?
McCain has a similar donation lottery going on. Donate and win a chance to ride the “Straight Talk Express” bus. It might be over by now, but I got an email asking for $ with this as the prize...for some reason it didn’t tempt me to donate :p
A judge with some balls would make Obama cancell the lottery and return every donation he has recieved since making the announcement. But that won't happen to Obamessiah.
U.S. Federal Gambling laws http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Federal-Laws/
Get idea, Obama...sorta like a lot of your other proposals.
shoudl be:
Great idea, Obama...sorta like a lot of your other proposals.
Sorry...
That is a good question, below is the list of options you have to take a chance on winning an expense paid trip to Obama's Convention .. OTHER IS .. KIND OF INFINITY... Amount $5 $50 $250 $2,300 $25 $100 $1,000 Other: $ Credit Card
Is Obama in the gambling business?
Yes. 3 Card Monte.
Also on the site...
you have to check one of these
Check this box to confirm that the following statements are true and accurate:
I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident.
I am at least 16 years old.
This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent.
The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.
OPTIONAL
PARDON ME, BUT WHEN DID IT BECOME OKAY TO BE 16 YEARS OF AGE TO GAMBLE IN MOST STATES... EVEN IN NEVADA YOU CAN NOT GAMBLE AT 16
Do you want to put my Parish Priest in Prison?
If a federal contractor has 16 year olds at his home, can he play the Obama Casino online, but using his 16 year olds name, and can that federal Contractor’s 16 year old contribute OTHER....to the sum of thousands and thousands.
Was your parish Priest running for President of the United States, or was your Parish Priest using the money to do God's work? Big difference.
Of course some think Obama is the Messiah, and that would make it alright to play Bingo for Obama.
It says nothing about contributions from overseas being not welcomed.
And for those who are betting on an Obama win, in bigger gambling circles, is this another way to insure they win big on other online gambling sites.
These kind if national “contests” usually end with a “Void where prohibited by law.”
As far as I could tell the Parish Priest used the cash for recreational equipment, keeping the church grounds spruced up, feeding kids in Central America and perhaps a new car.
However, the priest during any one raffle may have raised 50k Obama with this raffle will raise at least 20 million.
However, you do have to be an American Citizen or a legal permanent resident.
With the advent of the Internet it became possible for people to play lottery-style games on-line, many times for free (the cost of the ticket being supplemented by merely seeing, say, a pop-up ad). Two of the many websites which offer free games (after registration) include iwinweekly.com and the larger iWon.com, which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of IAC Search & Media. GTech Corporation, in the United States, administers 70% of the worldwide online and instant lottery business, according to its website. With online gaming rules generally prohibitive, “lottery” games face less scrutiny. This is leading to the increase in web sites offering lottery ticket purchasing services, charging premiums on base lottery prices. The legality of such services falls into question across many jurisdictions, especially throughout the United States, as the gambling laws related to lottery play generally have not kept pace with the spread of technology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotteries_in_the_United_States
true, but how does one know if the one contributing has citizenship in the United States? Do they ask for documentation, do they ask for documentation that one is over 16, this system of gambling on Obama is so flawed, wonder what buffoon came up with this plan.
In most states, non-profits need to obtain a license for gambling. The terms need to be spelled out an certain rules need to be followed.
Obama’s contest will have to be changed to include some way to enter at no cost (except to the soul).
if you donate you have to state that you are a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident. That documentation is given to the FEC and if one lies about their legal status, they can be charged with perjury.
A lottery is a promotional device by which items of value are awarded to members of the public by chance, but which requires some form of payment to participate. Even lotteries which aren’t conducted over the internet are illegal in the United States, except when conducted by states and certain exempt charitable organizations. If you believe you have received a solicitation in the guise of a sweepstakes which is an illegal lottery, you should contact your local post office or state Attorney General’s consumer protection office
http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/governments.php
It was illegal for minors to donate at one time. However the USSC ruled that this section was unconstitutional. So on what basis is the age limited to those 16 and above? And I don’t understand how foreign nationals who are in this country legally are permitted by law to donate to US political campaigns (they can).
http://www.fec.gov/law/feca/feca.pdf
Page 92
441k. Prohibition on contributions by minors
“An individual who is 17 years old or younger shall not make a contribution to a candidate or contribution or donation to a committee of a political party.”
Section 318 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA) , Pub. L. No. 107-55, ammended the Act to add section 441k. This amendment was effective as of November 6, 2002. However, in McConnell vs. FEC, 540 U.S. 93 (2003), The Supreme Court ruled that ammendment 441k was unconstitutional.
Go ahead and contact the AG or FEC and perhaps you can get this fundraising vehicle of Obama’s stopped.
But, you had better act soon or Obama will raise 20-30 million before the SEC can bring a stop to it.
Churches are among those institutions that operate within the law. Exceptions have been made for certain lobbied groups.
Newspapers can also include promotional “bingo” cards.
And those who operate legal bingo and lotteries are among those who file complaints against the non-compliant competition.
Obama held several fundraisers in China.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/10/obama_campaign_plans_fundraise.html
Obama appears to have collected the most funds from overseas, at least $1.6 million, according to Federal Election Commission records. (McCain raised $196,000 from donors living abroad, the records show. While McCain’s contributions are centered largely in London, with a handful from Bermuda, the Obama funds have come from addresses as eclectic as Kabul, Dubai, Palermo, and Sydney.
Frankly, I think if you send $5 to a campaign, you pretty much cost them money. They will put you on a mailing list, and send you stuff every month, they have to track your name, report it to the government. If you pay by check, they have to process the check, if by credit card they have to pay the card company.
It might be worth it to have a publicly proclaimed REPUBLICAN movement to give $5 to Obama, so we can have republicans sitting with him before his speech.
That way, when he announces how many more people are giving to his campaign, we can say it was because republicans were messing with him.
441k. Prohibition on contributions by minors “An individual who is 17 years old or younger shall not make a contribution to a candidate or contribution or donation to a committee of a political party.”
Section 318 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA) , Pub. L. No. 107-55, ammended the Act to add section 441k. This amendment was effective as of November 6, 2002. However, in McConnell vs. FEC, 540 U.S. 93 (2003), The Supreme Court ruled that ammendment 441k was unconstitutional
Of what purpose does it serve to have a 16 year old win a trip to a Democratic Convention, that seems wrong on so many levels... First of all they can not vote, second of all, is that encouraging minors to be transported across state lines, and who will be their gaurdian and Mainly they are not of legal age to gamble anywhere.
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