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US Airmen Share a Little Known WWII Survival and Rescue Story
WTOL Toledo ^ | July 4, 2008 | Jennifer Boresz

Posted on 07/06/2008 5:42:26 PM PDT by Bokababe

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To: Wolfstar
I knew Wallace was a Commie but just the other day, I saw on TV that he was a Mason and had something to do with the design of the dollar bill.

In case anyone wonders, I don't think the Masons are part of some grand conspiracy, but I do wonder if there was a connection between his being a Commie and a Mason. I don't know anything about Masons although I think all of my Mother's brothers were Masons and all of them were fine men.

21 posted on 07/06/2008 6:18:33 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
IMO that was part of an 'agreement' between Mao and Chiang Kai-shek. They both knew the countries infra-structure should remain intact no matter who came out on top. So they agreed to use the allied help for their own needs and ends for post war time.
There was a lot more 'co-operation' between these two than is publicly admitted. They were both using the Americans and British for their own agendas.
22 posted on 07/06/2008 6:19:01 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Bokababe
Thanks for this story, very sad that a tremendously good deed was never acknowledged by State.
23 posted on 07/06/2008 6:20:46 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Wolfstar

After Wallace feuded publicly with Jesse Jones and other high officials, Roosevelt stripped him of all responsibilities and made it clear Wallace would not be on the ticket again. The Democratic Party, with concern being expressed privately about FDR being able to make it through another term, chose Harry S Truman as FDR’s running mate at the 1944 Democratic convention, after New Deal partisans failed to promote William O. Douglas.

Wallace had said that if he became President, he would appoint Laurence Duggan as Secretary of State and Harry Dexter White as Secretary of Treasury. Both Duggan and White were Communist sympathizers who are now known to have been Soviet spies. Their appointment could have been a major victory for Soviet intelligence.[3]-Wiki


24 posted on 07/06/2008 6:23:44 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Bokababe

ping for later..


25 posted on 07/06/2008 6:32:09 PM PDT by Chinstrap61a
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To: Bokababe

65th Anniversary of “Black Sunday,” Operation Tidal Wave, coming up August 1st.


26 posted on 07/06/2008 6:47:55 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: Ploestipilot

an article of interest to you


27 posted on 07/06/2008 6:49:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: Bokababe
Thank you - American Video
28 posted on 07/06/2008 6:52:39 PM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: marron
" This is what happens when your government is riddled with communists. "

It's called the 5th column. i.e. MSM , Democrats , Liberals .

29 posted on 07/06/2008 7:04:06 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Yorlik803

My aunt tells me that F.D.R. was a commie lover.


30 posted on 07/06/2008 7:05:35 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: eleni121

This is one story that US history books won’t tell. The communists in the OSS made sure that Mihailovich was made into a pro-Nazi terrorist rather than the anti-Nazi resistance leader that he was.

A late friend, David Martin (Canadian RAF, WW2 and Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, US Senate), wrote a book whose title was “Allied Betrayed”. It told the story of the betrayal of Mihailovich by the US and British, esp. the State Dept. and OSS.

Then US Air Force pilot George McGovern (later Sen. (D-SD), was forced to land his bomber at a Tito-Partisan controlled island in the Adriatic Sea. He wrote glowing reports on how popular Tito was and what a nationalist he was. The helped to promote Tito among the leftists in the State Department. Communists in the OSS in Yugoslavia did the rest, like some did in Vietnam with Ho Chi Minh.

Mihailovich fought the Germans while Tito often made territorial deals with them, had ceasefires, etc.

Glad that FR ran this story. More stories about history and how communism has perverted it need to be published for the readership.


31 posted on 07/06/2008 7:25:03 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tainan
That sounds plausible but I don't think it is correct. Scott, who wrote "God is My Co-Pilot" was very supportive of Chiang Kai-shek.

This particular book "Flying Tiger" had a section about the Communist influence in China and that is where I got the quote about the bridges.

I actually got to meet Scott when he was in his 80's and he was in great shape and mentally sharp. I did not get to talk with him too long but did get in some questions about Joe Stilwell, and the State Department. Scott had mellowed a bit but still thought the country was being run by one-worlders, or at least they had a lot of influence.

32 posted on 07/06/2008 7:25:36 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: wendy1946; All
"There had to be allied airmen who parachuted into Albania, Croatia, and Bosnia. Have they ever found any of the bones or anything like that??"

Can't answer that, although I know some British and few Americans made it out with Tito's help after this, but in nowhere near these numbers.

There are more links to this story and Wiki has a pretty good description of what happened.

USAF Major Richard Felman was the leader of the rescued Americans trying to honor Mihailovich, but he died a few years ago. When the break up of Yugoslavia happened and the US took the other side, against the Serbs back in the 1990's, Felman gave anyone who would listen, an earful: An Open Letter To Our Troops In The Former Yugoslavia From Over 500 MlAs Saved By The Serbian People During World War II (Spring 1999)

33 posted on 07/06/2008 7:55:46 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
of course the communist in the state department wanted Tito in power..... who cares who gets killed.

The commies are still around in the state department, the democrat party, the environmental movement, ACLU etc.... those that view the world as a place to gain advantage by the work of others and to control better men by the use of coercion and force rather than competition are always going to be around.

neat story, maybe at least we can honor his memory for aiding our men at their time of need.

34 posted on 07/06/2008 8:03:55 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Yeah, Joe, "Please tell us how these guys were all "commies", even though a commie killed Mihailovich. Please tell us how Serbs are "anti-American, Russian-lovers" when they gave up their last piece of bread to American soldiers before we mercilessly bombed them for 78 straight days! Or maybe these Americans soldiers rescued 60 years ago by Serbs are just "paid Serb propagandists"? Or how about the American Serbs who went into German occupied Yugoslavia to help with the rescue, hoping that the communists wouldn't kill them?

Welcome to real Serbs, Joe, not those figments of your ugly imagination!

35 posted on 07/06/2008 8:07:59 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Their mission was to bomb a German oil field.

Close, but no seegar.

The refinery complex at Ploesti was a group of five refienries ringing the town with pipelines and interconnections set up in such a way that any of the refineries could be bypassed in the event there was a problem, in order to keep the flow of petroleum products moving. It was essential to the Reich's war effort.

It was also defended by more antiaircraft batteries than Berlin.

The loss rate on the raids there was near 50%, and greater in some units. In order to reduce the time the antiaircraft gunners to acquire and fire at the planes, and to increase accuracy of bombing, they came in at low level. The bombs had timed fuses to keep from blowing the planes in the formation around the sky when they went off (they went in that low).

The raids were successful and hurt the Axis war effort severely.

36 posted on 07/06/2008 8:20:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
That was the Army Air Farce that screwed up the mission. The goof balls got on the radio and gave away enough information that the Germans knew they were coming. A B-24 outfit from north Africa with a name starting with R.
37 posted on 07/06/2008 8:25:39 PM PDT by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: Yorlik803

My parents took a trip to the eastern and southern European countris in the 60s and my dad sent me a postcard with a picture of Yalta and all it said was is “this is where FDR sold out the USA”.

Apparently the censors held it for a long time because I didn’t get it until 3 months after they got home.


38 posted on 07/06/2008 8:35:00 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Domangart

I suggest you rethink your assessment of the “Army Air Farce”. It was not a case of the Germans finding out due to poor radio discipline.

I’d also like to point out, “Of the 177 aircraft originally listed for Operation TIDAL WAVE only some 88 managed to make the full return to Libya and only 33 of these were fit for service the following day. Losses included 53 aircraft, 44 of which were to German and Romanian and air defenses. Additional aircraft would be forced ditch in the Mediterranean or divert to other bases such as the RAF airfield at Corfu. A few would land and be interned in neutral Turkey. Of the aircrews, 440 men were killed, and a further 220 were taken prisoner. Five airmen were awarded the Medal of Honor, three posthumously, the most ever awarded for a single mission by the USAAF.”

That isn’t a level of effort that deserves to be called a ‘farce’.


39 posted on 07/06/2008 8:45:47 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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To: Domangart

“The enemy was well aware that a major bombing raid had been mounted. Across the Mediterranean they had tracked the 177 Liberators. When the formation reached Corfu, spotters had announced their direction sending German forces throughout the region into a second-stage alert. As the bombers made landfall and continued north over Greece, Axis forces went to third-stage. In the Romanian capitol of Bucharest Major Ernst Kuchenbacker phoned his commander, Brigadier General Alfred Gerstenberg, at his weekend mountain retreat. “It is unclear what is developing,” he advised the man who commanded one of the most heavily defended cities in Europe, “but we think the objective must be Ploesti.” Immediately Gerstenberg headed back to the city to command its defense.

As many as 200 Axis fighters were in the vicinity of Ploesti, including four wings (52 planes) of ME-109s at Mizel, twenty miles east of the city. All pilots were put on alert for immediate takeoff, with spotters already in the air. More than 200 big anti-aircraft guns ringed the city limits to protect the refineries, including 88-mm flak guns and 37-mm and 20-mm rapid-fire cannon. Well-trained German gunners heard the sounds of the sirens and rushed to their stations, ready to rain death on the Americans they now believed were heading towards them. Across the city barrage balloons were raised on their explosive laden steel cables, to snare wings and destroy the bombers that might soon arrive.”


http://www.homeofheroes.com/wings/part2/09_ploesti.html


40 posted on 07/06/2008 8:58:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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