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Army criticizes itself in Iraq invasion report
CNN.com ^ | 30 June 2008 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/30/2008 1:18:54 PM PDT by Moose4

The U.S. Army's official history of the Iraq war shows military chiefs made mistake after mistake in the early months of the conflict.

Failures to recognize the chaos engulfing the country and to send in enough troops to restore order after the 2003 invasion have long been highlighted by critics, but a new report shows the Army assessing itself.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; iraq; iraqifreedom; iraqwar; wot
Obviously the anti-war freaks are going to spin this as a negative (just look at the comments on the linked article as an example) but I think it's good that the Army is taking a hard look at what went right AND wrong in Iraq. They should be able to learn a lot of useful lessons, I'd hope.

}:-)4

1 posted on 06/30/2008 1:18:55 PM PDT by Moose4
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To: Moose4
(failed to) send in enough troops to restore order

But the MSM at the same time also labels the "surge" a failure. Spin spin spin.

2 posted on 06/30/2008 1:21:01 PM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: Moose4

Mistakes will always be made in war...nothing goes as planned. And despite the missteps, it was still a relative cakewalk when you compare it to past conflicts.


3 posted on 06/30/2008 1:21:15 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Moose4

Military has done this kind of thing, though usually NOT while armed conflicts are still occurring but as MSM and liberals now have an election to WIN, established military traditions be damned.


4 posted on 06/30/2008 1:23:38 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Slapshot68

I note that the drive-bys never mentioned the first part of this, “On Point” I, which showed that the initial invasion was pretty close to perfect. Oh no. Can’t mention that.


5 posted on 06/30/2008 1:23:53 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Moose4
...assuming that Iraq's government would remain functional after Hussein's ouster

That was a foreseeable mistake. Anyone who has ever worked in a company headed by a micro-managing dictator knows that such a leader ruthlessly gets rid of anyone who is not a "yes man." After two decades of Saddam Hussein, there wouldn't have been anyone left in the government — all the way out to the smallest villages — who could make a decision.

Companies headed by guys like that typically fall apart once the Supreme Leader leaves the scene. Keeping the Army in place wouldn't have helped; all the officers who could actually lead people had long since been purged, and probably killed.


6 posted on 06/30/2008 1:37:03 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Moose4
When the anti war pukes try to turn this to their advantage, someone needs to remind America of the horrendous mistakes made early in the Second World War. The learning curve was not nearly as steep as one might have hoped and we lost an enormous number of men. In light of that effort, it seems that the Iraq tussle went off like a scripted field exercise; not perfect but no disaster.
7 posted on 06/30/2008 2:03:45 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Slapshot68
Mistakes will always be made in war...nothing goes as planned. And despite the missteps, it was still a relative cakewalk when you compare it to past conflicts.

I agree with this statement. I don't like the term "mistake" in this context, but only that it is sometimes used in the media to argue that the war has not been competently fought. I think it has been.

For example, some say that more troops (the "surge") should have been sent in earlier. This implies that the same surge would have surely had the same effect in earlier years. I don't think that's certain at all. It might have gone very ~differently~ but I don't think anyone can guarantee that it would have been ~better~. It may possibly have been far, far worse. In COIN, more troops also means more targets and often more casualties.

The real reason that the surge is working is that it coincided with the "Anbar awakening" which has rolled like a tide of changed hearts all across the country. Could that have happened earlier? Maybe-- but maybe not. The local sheiks turned against Al Queda mainly because of their fatigue of dealing with Al Queda and their obscene brutality. The conditions that awoke them and turned them (and others like the 1920s Brigades) toward the U.S. took those years to develop. It's impossible to know with any clarity if it might have happened earlier.

Also the de-Baathification and disbanding of the Iraqi Army, both done by Bremer immediately after the fall of Baghdad are called mistakes today. Maybe they were, but again, had those not been done things would have developed differently but not automatically better. There would have been a whole different set of problems in that path just there have been problems on this path. How it really would have gone is just not knowable.

It's essential of course to recognize the points where things have gone badly and not according to plan, and to try to game up some alternatives for next time. But that's not the same as assuming that those alternatives would have worked any better.

I have challenged my anti-war friends on several occasions to come up with just one example of any war in history, that meets the scope of this one, that has gone better. The scope of the achievement, the complexity of the aftermath, and the number of casualties (on *both* sides) puts this war and its fighters in very select company indeed.

IMHO.

8 posted on 06/30/2008 2:08:33 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
The real reason that the surge is working is that it coincided with the "Anbar awakening" which has rolled like a tide of changed hearts all across the country. Could that have happened earlier? Maybe-- but maybe not.

Your post is an excellent analysis of events in Iraq ... nailed it.

9 posted on 06/30/2008 2:12:39 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Moose4

I’ll bet a few mistakes were made during WWII, too, yet we went on to win that one.

Darn it, why can’t we be perfect!!??


10 posted on 06/30/2008 2:19:03 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Moose4

Silliness. The Army has always done this, and these studies make for fascinating and informative reading. Apparently CNN has just discovered this amazing fact. Catch up, fellas.


11 posted on 06/30/2008 2:26:28 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Moose4

Typical After Action Report. Provides the means to improve the next time by identifying problems and finding solutions.


12 posted on 06/30/2008 2:40:00 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Slapshot68
Mistakes will always be made in war...nothing goes as planned.

The most well-written operations order will rarely survive the first enemy contact. All it can do is provide a framework for decision-making that is tempered by the current context of actions underway, both friendly and enemy.

After-action reports are how any organization gets better and the Army has always been well-regarded for its bluntness in presenting the facts and findings in its AA reports. As usual, the DBM hasn't a clue in these matters and couldn't catch a clue while standing in the middle of a herd of clues, wearing clue musk during clue mating season.

13 posted on 06/30/2008 2:58:02 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Nick Danger

It didn’t help that Paul Bremer disbanded the army and the police.


14 posted on 06/30/2008 6:02:11 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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