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The Rage Offstage at Marvel ($5 billion lawsuit - Stan Lee Media claims rights to Lee characters)
Barrons ^ | 6-28-08 | Bill Alpert

Posted on 06/28/2008 12:22:22 PM PDT by doug from upland

The Rage Offstage at Marvel By BILL ALPERT

Lawsuits against Marvel, Lee and Bill and Hillary are pressing Paul's claims that a dot-com he started with Stan Lee in 1998 was undone by the actions of the former president, short-sellers and Stan Lee himself. In a Manhattan federal district court, some of Paul's associates argue that the bankrupt dot-com, Stan Lee Media, still owns rights to Marvel characters like Spider-Man and The X-Men. On behalf of the former dot-com, they want half the profits that Marvel (ticker: MVL) is piling up, now that it's producing its own films like the smash hit Iron Man and the just-opened The Incredible Hulk.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clintoninsta; clintonista; clintonlegacy; comics; hollywood; lawsuit; marvel; peterpaul; spiderman; stanlee; stanleemedia; stanleylieber; superheroes
I reporter on this some time ago. Maybe people will finally start paying attention. If it was a work for hire, why did Stan sue Marvel and why did they settle with him for over $10 million?

Stan Lee may also have a bankruptcy fraud problem for transferring assets from the bankruptcy without court approval.

1 posted on 06/28/2008 12:22:22 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

READ MORE HERE - http://www.stanleemedia.net/


2 posted on 06/28/2008 12:25:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

What do Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby’s estate have to say about this (Ditko is still alive).


3 posted on 06/28/2008 12:38:57 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee

I don’t know that they’ve had anything to say.


4 posted on 06/28/2008 12:41:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

btt


5 posted on 06/28/2008 12:43:42 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: doug from upland

I don’t mean to derail discussion of the funding scandal. Just pointing out that there were multiple parties in the creation of these licensed characters.

And work for hire could still be appealed for creator ownership after a period of years. Jack fought Marvel for his artwork back for a lengthy period (when pages were being sold off at auction I believe to profit the company starting in the 1980s).

And I think Kirby and Simon fought for ownership of Captain America and won (they may have then sold or licensed the chacters back to Marvel).

Don’t recall Ditko’s name ever coming up (he’s a private person).

And the media seems only to willing to gloss over the contributions of others in their mythmaking.

If Lee pursued sole ownership of the trademarked characters with no consideration given to (or waived by) the artists, then it is an incomplete claim of ownership and should not have much support in court. Kirby did not draw the Spider-man comic but he did co-create the character.


6 posted on 06/28/2008 12:58:29 PM PDT by weegee
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To: doug from upland

We are back in Texas after two years in Rancho Cucamonga California. Our youngest son 24 years old decided to stay in Irvine Calif where he goes to Concordia Univ. He was walking in L A one day recently and saw Stan Lee. He said “Hi, Stan” and Stan said “Hi” back to him. I asked HOW he recognized him. Mike said he is easy to recognize. Said he is a nice guy.


7 posted on 06/28/2008 1:10:00 PM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!! FOLLOW THE $$MONEY$$)
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To: doug from upland

8 posted on 06/28/2008 1:11:08 PM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!! FOLLOW THE $$MONEY$$)
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To: buffyt; doug from upland

BTW that was a photo of Stan Lee.


9 posted on 06/28/2008 1:11:43 PM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!! FOLLOW THE $$MONEY$$)
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To: weegee

You’re not derailing the fundraising scandal. This article is more about the claims against Marvel. Since I have a considerable number of shares in Stan Lee Media, I am very interested in this case.

This history may help - http://www.stanleemedia.net-a.googlepages.com/synopsisof13dfilingandfindingsofinvestig


10 posted on 06/28/2008 1:14:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: buffyt

Over three years ago, I spent considerable time going through the bankruptcy file of Stan Lee Media. I was astounded at the failure of Stan to list the assets of the company. Stan Lee Media had tens of millions of dollars worth of assets. They should have been reorganized and asserted their rights, not destroyed.


11 posted on 06/28/2008 1:17:50 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

Another mis-adventure The Clintons were involved in.

Who’da thunk it?


12 posted on 06/28/2008 2:25:25 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: doug from upland

Didn’t Lee sell the rights to his characters a while back?


13 posted on 06/28/2008 2:50:20 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

He made a deal with Marvel in late 1998, one month after virtually the same deal he made with Stan Lee Media. He sued Marvel for a share of the profits from the characters and got over $10 mil. Stan Lee Media has some real legal issues on its side in the lawsuit.


14 posted on 06/28/2008 3:13:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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