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To: A_perfect_lady
I think it matters because muslims by and large fell under the sphere of influence of the former Soviet Union. Throughout the muslim world you find them easily co-opted by marxists who played on their antipathy for European colonizers and/or Jews. Many collectivist regimes are run hand-in-glove with Islam.

I see what you mean. BTW, you are an excellent writer and thinker. You should do this professionally.

From WorldThreats.com:
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.worldthreats.com/latin_america/Iran-Chavez%20Alliance.htm

From National Public Radio (NPR):
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

From NewsBusters.org:
BARACK OBAMA CLIP #1, DATED MAY 18: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us.

OBAMA CLIP #2, DATED MAY 18: Iran, they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. I mean, if Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.

OBAMA CLIP #3, DATED MAY 20: Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the regions and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/05/23/fnc-shows-obamas-iran-flip-flop-colmes-might-talk-hitler

113 posted on 06/28/2008 9:31:50 AM PDT by ETL
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To: ETL
I do believe Obama was raised Muslim. He may not consider himself Muslim any more than I consider myself Christian, having been raised Christian (I'm an atheist now.) My only two points are that:

1) He may have Muslim influences that will more easily fit into a marxist worldview than Christian influences do.

2) Even if he doesn't, being perceived internationally as Muslim may help to solidify the growing acceptance of the notion that there are ultimately only two sides: white/j-c/capitalist v. nonwhite/muslim/marxist.

That last one is worrisome because it reminds me of something I read years ago by the author of "Subliminal Seduction," a look at advertising. The author said, "If you want to influence someone, don't tell them what to DO. Tell them who they ARE."

IDENTITY is the big issue today. As a school teacher, I am mandated... mandated to teach an entire literary unit based on the theme IDENTITY. When the available identities slowly coagulate into only one of two choices it's chilling because it's a very effective approach.

I'll offer myself as an example. When I was in my 20s, I saw only two available political identities in America. You were either a cool liberal, and your allies were MTV, NPR, and most of academia... or you were an uptight Christian conservative, and your allies were Jesse Helms, Pat Robertson and Jerry Faldwell.

Of course, this was a false choice, but I became a liberal in my 20s purely because these were the only choices I saw. Had I not been introduced to Free Republic and via FR, Ayn Rand, I might be a Danielle now. Identity is the weak spot, particularly for young people.

Obama being seen as the muslim-marxist candidate sets us up for a new paradigm. The solution, IMHO, is not to deny his muslim side because it's simply a cold hard fact that whatever his personal beliefs might be, his family and upbringing include Islam to at least some degree and it cannot be eradicated.

The solution is to make people, especially young people, aware that this use of Identity serves to force them into accepting that these are the only choices available. Once they accept that you're either a White Christian Capitalist or not, we are in trouble, because the other side has the best ad campaign, and all the cool background music.

And the average human IQ is only 100.

When you consider that Black conservatives are considered "not really Black" by the Black community, you can see it in effect already.

136 posted on 06/28/2008 9:56:10 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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