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A load of hot air: Why spending £100bn on windfarms is Labour's greatest act of lunacy
Mail Online (London) ^ | 26th June 2008 | Christopher Booker

Posted on 06/27/2008 1:58:40 PM PDT by Entrepreneur

Today, a giant new wind turbine soars the height of a London tower block above the Mendip hills where I live in Somerset.

A perfect symbol of what is arguably the greatest single political madness engulfing Britain today.

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But there is another important point the Government is trying to conceal about this crackpot policy...

This is the unavoidable fact that wind speeds around the British Isles are constantly varying, often providing no power at all - so that the electricity actually generated by these turbines represents only between a quarter and a third of their nominal 'capacity'.

What this means is that conventional coal, gas, oil or nuclear-fired power stations must be on permanent stand-by to provide all the electricity the turbines are not able to produce when the wind is not blowing.

Earlier this month, Paul Golby, the chief executive of the German-owned E.ON (one of our largest electricity companies), came up with the shattering admission that the back-up needed for our new wind turbines would amount to 90 per cent of their capacity.

This alone would mean building scores more gas and coal-fired power plants, to guarantee continuous supply during those times when the wind is not blowing and therefore the turbines are not generating any electricity.

It is this which reveals the true enormity of the madness now confronting us - because Britain already faces an unprecedented crisis over its energy supplies, even before our infatuation with wind power is taken into account.

For the sum of £100 billion which the Government plans to spend on the new turbines, we could buy 37 'carbon-free' nuclear power stations at current prices, permanently supplying enough electricity to cover all our current needs.

(Excerpt) Read more at mailonsunday.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; environment; globalwarming; renewableenergy; windpower
I'd like to laugh at Britian's Looney Left, except that the same thing is happening here.

Where's Alice, because surely we are in Wonderland?

1 posted on 06/27/2008 1:58:40 PM PDT by Entrepreneur
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To: Entrepreneur

So (for those of us from Rio Linda) the whole problem with wind turbines is, since the wind only blows part of the time, full conventional generating capacity has to be built anyway.

And the windmills are basically a taxpayer-funded boutique item.


2 posted on 06/27/2008 2:05:16 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Entrepreneur

Great find! Great Post. No one has balls to bring it up during the debate on “renewable sources of energy”. Angry Mob wants it, so angry mob will get it.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 2:08:58 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: Entrepreneur
The want to kill as many birds as they can and then blame “We The People” for using energy. But the left uses more energy than the rest of us put together so they really do not care as long as they are in the high palace. Like Hitler and Stalin. They want to put us all in boxes and kill us all. So they can give the land back to the non intelligent rats and bugs (so they say but this is a lie they want to rule and they are approaching that now). Since they are Communist/Nazi they will put themselves in the high palace and live like kings while we all are reduced to slaves.
4 posted on 06/27/2008 2:09:35 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: Entrepreneur
The turbine farm near Cheyenne, Wyoming makes sense. It's one of the windiest areas in America, but it doesn't blow all the time even there.

But England, with it's mild maritime climate? That's just dumb.

5 posted on 06/27/2008 2:09:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Entrepreneur

bump for later...


6 posted on 06/27/2008 2:42:27 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Entrepreneur
Today, a giant new wind turbine soars the height of a London tower block above the Mendip hills where I live in Somerset


7 posted on 06/27/2008 2:53:50 PM PDT by wideminded
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8 posted on 06/27/2008 2:54:19 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: colorado tanker

wave power might be better for them. Methane production facilities given all the BS their legislators put out would be best.


9 posted on 06/27/2008 3:00:24 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: Entrepreneur

“For the sum of £100 billion which the Government plans to spend on the new turbines, we could buy 37 ‘carbon-free’ nuclear power stations at current prices, permanently supplying enough electricity to cover all our current needs.”

You just can’t make this kind of stuff up.


10 posted on 06/27/2008 3:35:07 PM PDT by villagerjoel ("I think my brains are hanging out," he said.)
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To: The_Republican

Isn’t oil a “renewable” energy source.... if you wait long enough?


11 posted on 06/27/2008 3:40:26 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: YOUGOTIT
The want to kill as many birds as they can and then blame Ronald McDonald


12 posted on 06/27/2008 5:08:08 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Dutch Boy
Isn’t oil a “renewable” energy source.... if you wait long enough?

In a speech by Hyman Rickover, he gave the figure that every year we use as much oil as was created in 14 million years. Rickover gave this speech in the 1950's.

13 posted on 06/27/2008 6:14:39 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: sinanju

You could used some form of storage to smooth out the disparity between supply and demand. Have the windmills charge compressed air or pumped water storage and recover it during peak demand. It has been and is done. It’s even more expensive than wind power though.


14 posted on 06/27/2008 6:20:34 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: wideminded

Rickover said all kinds of stuff. Some of it was even true.


15 posted on 06/27/2008 7:18:31 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto; Dutch Boy
Rickover said all kinds of stuff. Some of it was even true.

Let's check:

World proven oil reserves: 1137 billion barrels
Oil production/consumption per year: 17.6 billion barrels
Time to deplete reserves at current rate of consumption: 64.6 years

According to a little internet research I did, most oil has been formed since the pre-Cambrian period which ended 542 million years ago.

542 million / 64.6 = approx 8.4 million years to produce oil consumed in one year

So Rickover at least had the right order of magnitude.

16 posted on 06/27/2008 8:26:34 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I was under the impression that the eternal dream of “storing” power was right up there with the Philosopher’s Stone and Perpetual Motion.

Or economical solar cells or fusion power (”just give us more research funds”).


17 posted on 06/28/2008 7:41:19 AM PDT by sinanju
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No, power storage is quite practical and actually in use. In Germany they use compressed air in old salt mines. U.S. utilities have proposed pumped storage, pumping water uphill during the night and using the water generate electricity during the day.

It’s expensive, but in an industry where a major cost is the cost of money, it is cheaper than adding peak load generating capacity.


18 posted on 06/28/2008 10:26:34 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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19 posted on 06/30/2008 12:22:40 PM PDT by shineon
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