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Youth All-Star Game Canceled To Prevent Bruised Egos
weathernet5.com ^ | 06/26/08 | weathernet5

Posted on 06/27/2008 4:48:51 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

BEACHWOOD, Ohio -- A local community has canceled an all-star game for youth baseball players because it doesn't want to exclude anyone.

People in Beachwood are upset, and it's not just parents and children. The issue is when is a child just learning a game and when are they old enough to compete in it?

The city of Beachwood and its recreation department drew the line at age 12.

The phone lines lit up on WTAM on Thursday morning as parents and sports fans called to voice their opinion on the city canceling its all-star game for 9- to 12-year-olds.

For decades the game has been played on July 4, but in a letter to the coaches, the parks and recreation department said the tradition is over, saying its not their desire to exclude any child from participating in a recreation event.

The letter sites an article written by the CEO of the National Alliance for Youth Sports that says all-star games bruise young egos.

It's a thought he issued to WTAM host Bob Franz.

"Below the age of 10, children don't care. What they really care about is having fun and playing," said Fred Engh.

Franz has one father call in whose child would have played in next week's all-star game. He said his son is very disappointed because this was the first year he was selected and he's worked hard all year to get this honor.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: allstar; baseball; beachwood; childhood; citesnotsites; youth
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1 posted on 06/27/2008 4:48:52 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3
Why don't the parents just organize it themselves?

The letter sites an article written ...

Gaaack!

2 posted on 06/27/2008 4:51:53 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Liberal egalitarianism runs rampant.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 4:52:03 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: TornadoAlley3

“The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.” (Japan)


4 posted on 06/27/2008 4:52:14 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"Below the age of 10, children don't care. What they really care about is having fun and playing," said Fred Engh.

Success and winning are fun Fred. ;)

5 posted on 06/27/2008 4:52:29 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (When all you have is a kitty, every problem looks like a troll.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Liberal losers are at it again: promoting a nation in their own image.
6 posted on 06/27/2008 4:53:48 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: TornadoAlley3

New City Slogan: “Beachwood, Where Everybody’s Average.”


7 posted on 06/27/2008 4:54:37 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6856475&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

related link


8 posted on 06/27/2008 4:55:15 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: TornadoAlley3

It sort of communist indoctrination in a way. No reward for hard work.


9 posted on 06/27/2008 4:56:15 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: raybbr

http://www.northstarpubs.com/PRB208_Engh_AllStar.php

letter


10 posted on 06/27/2008 4:56:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: TornadoAlley3

If you’re not going to have an all-star game, there are other good reasons besides “hurt feelings” that have merit, e.g. dealing with parents who wildly overestimate the skill levels of their children, scheduling around vacations, etc. However, the nature of an “all-star” game is by definition exclusionary, otherwise it’s just another game.

I kind of think the idea of having an all-star is silly at any level anyway unless the proceeds go to charity, but that’s a different subject.


11 posted on 06/27/2008 4:58:40 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Oh perfect! Let's extend that to "real life". We must make sure that everyone is the same in all ways, lest we hurt their feelings. So, everybody gets the same pay, same house, the same clothes, the same...

...wait a minute...

Isn't there a name for a system where everyone is treated and rewarded the same regardless of effort?

12 posted on 06/27/2008 5:01:59 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
“”Below the age of 10, children don't care. What they really care about is having fun and playing,” said Fred Engh”

Yes Fred because : “It's not whether you win or lose.....

It's whether you win!!”

Lurking’

13 posted on 06/27/2008 5:02:10 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

I think he’s right for a lot of kids, but I don’t see the point of including his comment in the article to begin with.

I agree with your comment though, my son’s team (U-11) has a lot more fun when they win. I don’t think they obsess over winning and losing like they will when they get older, but it’s more fun when you win.

We don’t necessarily coach to win at all costs, e.g. everybody plays “about” the same amount of time, but in a close game, certain boys will play more than others, particularly at the end of the game, and the boys kinda know that.


14 posted on 06/27/2008 5:03:43 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Yes, many parents nationwide will no doubt cringe at this stance because All-Star games are a great source of pride when a child earns that distinction, but the kids could care less.

"Could care less" Fred? That means they do care.

From Fred's organization's page:

Q: What is the organization's biggest accomplishment since its inception in 1981?
FE: While there have been numerous accomplishments, perhaps the greatest is having a board, staff and host of recreation professionals who are totally dedicated to the mission of the Alliance. It is for this reason that the Alliance has reached the level it is at today.

Ummm.. Okay. It's NOT about the kids is it? It's all about YOUR organization, isn't it?

15 posted on 06/27/2008 5:09:04 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

“Below the age of 10, children don’t care. What they really care about is having fun and playing,” said Fred Engh.

My wife and I run a 25 team baseball & fastpitch league for ages 6-15 boys (baseball) & girls (fastpitch). I’ve also coached for 7 years now and believe me when I say, it does not matter how old a kid is, THEY DO CARE ABOUT WINNING.

It is always the parents who use the line... “It’s just important that they have fun”.

We are old school, sports are about learning how to be a winner and a loser, not just in the game but also in life.

Silly me.


16 posted on 06/27/2008 5:09:38 AM PDT by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: TornadoAlley3
...all-star games bruise young egos...

Young egos are supposed to get bruised so they can learn how to become a winner.

17 posted on 06/27/2008 5:14:27 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Darn… I was a ego bruising pawn back in 1955. I feel so bad. (hangs head)
18 posted on 06/27/2008 5:17:15 AM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Should be “Where below average is the norm.”


19 posted on 06/27/2008 5:19:42 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: econjack
Isn't there a name for a system where everyone is treated and rewarded the same regardless of effort?

Hmmmm?.....Communism?..................Liberals ought to read their Bibles, if they own one. Especially the parable of the "Ten Talents"............

20 posted on 06/27/2008 5:20:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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