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Lithuanian ban on Soviet symbols
bbc.co.uk ^ | 17 June 2008

Posted on 06/18/2008 9:11:54 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Lithuania's parliament has passed the toughest restrictions anywhere in the former Soviet Union on the public display of Soviet and Nazi symbols.

It will now be an offence in the Baltic state to display the images of Soviet and Nazi leaders.

This includes flags, emblems and badges carrying insignia, such as the hammer and sickle or swastika.

Correspondents say equating Soviet and Nazi symbols in this way is certain to infuriate Russia.

The new law also prohibits the Nazi and Soviet national anthems but does not specify if this extends to the modern-day Russian national anthem, which uses the Soviet music with different lyrics.

BBC Russian affairs analyst Steven Eke says these are the toughest bans on symbols from the Soviet past adopted in any of the 15 countries that emerged from the USSR.

'Blasphemous'

The measures go further than neighbouring Estonia's ban on Soviet symbols, he says.

Estonia's decision to put the swastika and hammer and sickle on an equally prohibited footing was described by Russia as "blasphemous", and an attempt to rewrite history.

Moscow's official interpretation of history is that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were liberated from Nazi Germany by, then voluntarily joined, the Soviet Union.

This account is rejected by those three Baltic States and most other European nations, says our correspondent.

They believe the Soviet Union illegally occupied the Baltic republics as a result of a secret agreement - the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact - between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

The occupation continued until the collapse of the Soviet state itself at the end of 1991.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: communismkills; communists; hammerandsickle; stalinism
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1 posted on 06/18/2008 9:11:54 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Excellent!


2 posted on 06/18/2008 9:13:07 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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The Lithuanians are really gutsy to do this.I hope they understand that Russia today is in the firm grip of the KGB of the 60’s and 70’s.If they want to know what to expect they should consult other neighbors of Russia...including Finland.
3 posted on 06/18/2008 9:20:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Take a hint Russia.


4 posted on 06/18/2008 9:20:34 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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Correspondents say equating Soviet and Nazi symbols in this way is certain to infuriate Russia.

Truth hurts don't it. As General Anders put it, "With the Nazis we lose our lives, with the Soviets, we lose our souls."

5 posted on 06/18/2008 9:21:43 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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Correspondents say equating Soviet and Nazi symbols in this way is certain to infuriate Russia.

Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 and 20 MILLION of his own people, so are they saying that they don't compare to the Nazis because they were far worse? Or are they saying that somehow they are better?

6 posted on 06/18/2008 9:26:47 AM PDT by Sax
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Correspondents say equating Soviet and Nazi symbols in this way is certain to infuriate Russia.

Why? Because the Nazis made it difficult for the politically incorrect to leave the country freely? Because the Nazis killed six million which makes them worse than Stalin, who killed 20 million? Because the Soviets were socialists while the Nazis were....no, wait. Hmm, I really don't see a problem here.

7 posted on 06/18/2008 9:29:54 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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so are they saying that they don't compare to the Nazis because they were far worse? Or are they saying that somehow they are better?

It's saying that it's ok to mass murder people, as long as they belong to the same race as you.

8 posted on 06/18/2008 9:30:05 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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After the fall of the Soviet Union, a relative who went to Russia bought me some old Soviet uniform insignia pins. Wonder if I’d get anything on E-Bay for them.


9 posted on 06/18/2008 9:32:23 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Would Cameron Diaz be able to be prosecuted for this fashion faux pas?


10 posted on 06/18/2008 9:34:24 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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If she survived the ass-kicking.


11 posted on 06/18/2008 9:35:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Now if we could only ban displays of Che Guevara.


12 posted on 06/18/2008 9:35:31 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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How soon will it be that Lithuania’s natural gas supply gets “accidentally” disconnected?


13 posted on 06/18/2008 9:36:21 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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The USSR had their own concentration camp gulags and tens of millions of citizens murdered. Political purges and tyranny.

Yep. They are brother ideologies.


14 posted on 06/18/2008 9:36:26 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: dfwgator

I like the Guevar-style Reagan shirts.


15 posted on 06/18/2008 9:36:42 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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I even like the name of the site hocking these shirts, Che-Mart.

16 posted on 06/18/2008 9:44:33 AM PDT by Sax
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To: Fractal Trader

Again? LOL


17 posted on 06/18/2008 9:47:39 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
17 posts so far at this writing and not even a muffled sigh for free speech.


18 posted on 06/18/2008 9:52:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Maybe when Lithuania adopts the U.S. Constitution. Otherwise . . . .


19 posted on 06/18/2008 9:56:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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20 posted on 06/18/2008 10:00:55 AM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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