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It Takes a Collective, Obama Believes
Capital Research Center ^ | June 16, 2008 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 06/16/2008 3:21:21 PM PDT by vadum

Red diaper baby Barack Obama's collectivist beliefs go way back. We dug up an enlightening old article, "What Makes Obama Run?" (by Hank De Zutter, Chicago Reader, Dec. 8, 1995) that offers more insight into what Obama, the Democrats' presumptive presidential candidate, thinks about America and traditional American values. The short answer: not much.

In it Obama, at that time a candidate for the Illinois Senate, criticizes individualism as what intellectual John Ralston Saul has called the cult of the Hero:

"In America," Obama says, "we have this strong bias toward individual action. You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing. But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations."
American individualism is poppycock, according to Obama. Explaining his theory on how communities can go about "getting [their] fair share," he denigrates the can-do spirit of Americans, calling it, in effect, right-wing propaganda:
"The right wing talks about this but they keep appealing to that old individualistic bootstrap myth: get a job, get rich, and get out. Instead of investing in our neighborhoods, that's what has always happened. Our goal must be to help people get a sense of building something larger."
In other words, Americans need the helping hand of government. And Americans on the political right are racist, stupid, and backward-looking, Obama says:
"We must form grass-root structures that would hold me and other elected officials more accountable for their actions. The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have. But it's always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility."
Elias Crim and I looked at Obama's radical roots in the current Foundation Watch.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; alinsky; barackobama; bitter; changewecanbelievein; collectivism; collectivists; communism; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; individualism; marxism; marxists; moralabsolutes; obama; obamatruthfile; saulalinsky; socialism
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1 posted on 06/16/2008 3:21:21 PM PDT by vadum
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To: vadum

Yep. He’s a commie muzzie.


2 posted on 06/16/2008 3:23:39 PM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: vadum

Obama uses the word “collective” quite a bit.

Brit Hume played a clip a few weeks ago of the candidates talking at graduate exercises this year. If I recall correctly, Obama mentioned it to the graduates as what they should be striving for.


3 posted on 06/16/2008 3:27:17 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: vadum

Actually, Obama is a “red diaper doper baby,” courtesy of Michael Savage.


4 posted on 06/16/2008 3:28:38 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, instead of opposing the world's tyrants, he wants to embrace them)
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To: CWWren
He’s a commie muzzie.

Arrogant commie muzzie.

5 posted on 06/16/2008 3:38:48 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: vadum

Che Guevara believed in collectivism. Individuals don’t matter, just kill ‘em if they get in the way or deviate from the collective.


6 posted on 06/16/2008 3:38:57 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: vadum

How come no one understands that socialism and reducing society to the lowest common denominator, stifles individualism and actually breeds more contempt? That making a four year degree on a par with a High School dropout is somehow good for society?


7 posted on 06/16/2008 3:40:32 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Obama and Osama, whats the difference?)
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To: Jeff Head

Ping


8 posted on 06/16/2008 3:44:40 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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9 posted on 06/16/2008 3:49:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: vadum

What if I don't want to be part of Obama's Collective?


10 posted on 06/16/2008 3:50:32 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: vadum
You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing. But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations."

Okay, everyone, time to dust off and reread "Atlas Shrugged" - (BTW, 51 years after it's publication, Atlas Shrugged if finally slated to become a movie. It was supposed to hit the screens this spring. It has been delayed until next year. Anyone think the Hollywood crowd and their Comrades in DC were afraid that too many of the Sheeple would see it and wake up to what our FREE form of Gov't is versus "Collectivism" aka "Communism" -

That aside, name me one great invention/advance that came about by collective/committee?

It has, inevitably, been the individual that makes the big breakthroughs.

As someone once said: "The perfect committee is made up of 12 people - 11 of whom are home sick."

All that aside, these early obamama quotes - we need to cache them NOW - they are pure Marxism....

11 posted on 06/16/2008 3:50:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: vadum
"We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations."

The Communists always have this stupid idea of a utopia here on earth. Anyone who has read the Bible knows that no such utopia will ever exist on this planet. It is the will of God for humans to always have poverty, disease, war, natural disasters and other very difficult times.

Does Obama think he can reverse the will of God?

By imposing Communism as the solution to America's problems, Obama will subsequently bankrupt the Republic.

Economic stagflation and energy shortages will spread the world over.

I will forever hold Obama's voters responsible for the coming disaster.

12 posted on 06/16/2008 3:54:23 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: vadum

Collective = COMMUNity = Commune = communism

“It Takes a Commune”


13 posted on 06/16/2008 3:55:40 PM PDT by bannie
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To: vadum

a collective bump


14 posted on 06/16/2008 3:58:59 PM PDT by malia (Michelle Obama..2008"For the first time in my adult lifetime I'm really proud of my country.")
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To: vadum

The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have. But it’s always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia.

What a guy.
So he’s saying that it’s harder to get leftist/progressive organizations of accountablility because leftists are more tolerant, broad minded ???
Here I figured it was because they were authoritarian crooks
who hid from accountablity.


15 posted on 06/16/2008 4:04:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Collective PING


16 posted on 06/16/2008 4:22:54 PM PDT by Jay P.S. (PLEASE CONTACT THE UNIVERSITY)
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To: vadum

“But it’s always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility”

If this guy gets elected, we’re screwed. Our only hope will be to broadcast messages into space in the hope that aliens will save us before we go extinct.


17 posted on 06/16/2008 4:38:28 PM PDT by Soothesayer (I'm breaking out of this hand basket!)
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To: tet68
The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have.

But it's always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia.

And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility.

First he says we are "bitter", now we are "narrow minded" and hold some sort of "false nostalgia".

By that I think he means a distorted view of the ways things should be. I guess the historical concepts of wright and wrong, truth, and justice that allowed western civilization to prosper were wrong all along.......The third world way of chaos and despotism must be the ticket in his mind.

It's true, we are screwed if he is elected. What an A$Z.

18 posted on 06/16/2008 5:42:19 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: maine-iac7
The first time I read Atlas Shrugged, I understood it but was astounded that an author could imagine that such things could happen. The second time I read it, I realized with horror how many of these things had already come to pass, and I could see the next actions looming on the horizion.

Rand was overly verbose -- the book could easily have been one-third its size and just as effective -- and I don't agree with her moral/irreligious points of view. But her depiction of the actions of a corrupt state -- with the willing accomplices of weak-spined politician collaborators and an indifferent, sheeplike public -- are frighteningly accurate and deadly.

19 posted on 06/16/2008 6:25:14 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: vadum
Obama wants us all to live here.
20 posted on 06/16/2008 7:45:20 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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