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Posted on 06/12/2008 4:23:38 PM PDT by markomalley
BONN (AFP) — UN climate chief Yvo de Boer called on industrialised countries on Thursday to start showing some of their cards in a slow-paced poker game whose prize is a new pact to tackle global warming.
De Boer, executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), said talks unfolding among senior officials here marked "the first time that people are getting down to serious negotiations" for a historic deal in Copenhagen in December next year.
But, he warned, many positions had so far been "incredibly generic" and this problem of vagueness among industrialised countries was especially worrying.
The June 3-13 Bonn talks should issue "a very clear call on governments to start submitting their ideas on what should be the key elements of a Copenhagen outcome," said de Boer.
He warned: "Politically, if Copenhagen fails we would be in huge trouble. I think that people would then begin to question the utility of this process."
Last December, parties to the UNFCCC set down a "Bali Roadmap" of talks designed to climax in the most ambitious and complex environmental treaty ever attempted.
The post-2012 pact would succeed the current pledges made under the UNFCCC's cornerstone accord, the Kyoto Protocol.
It would commit countries to deeper curbs on the heat-trapping gases that are driving climate change.
And it would beef up the transfer of clean technology to poorer economies and strengthen financial support for those countries most at risk from water stress, rising sea levels and other damage.
The green group WWF cautioned on Thursday that "only" 536 days remained until Copenhagen.
"The ideas put on the table are only (being) translated into shopping lists rather than blueprints for negotiations," it said.
WWF urged Japan, as host of next month's summit in Hokkaido, gathering the Group of Eight (G8) and the five major economies of the developing world, to give the flagging process a boost.
Looking at specifics, de Boer said developing countries were still awaiting a signal from industrialised economies about what they intended to put on the table, especially "the critical ingredient" of money.
According to UNFCCC figures, 150 billion euros -- more than 200 billion dollars -- will have to be mustered each year by 2030.
One potential cash cow is the Kyoto Protocol's Clean Development Mechanism (CDM), under which rich countries help environmentally-friendly projects in poor countries, in such fields as cleaner energy and waste handling.
The carbon pollution averted through the scheme is transformed into credits that can be sold or deducted from the rich country's emissions quota under Kyoto.
A levy of two percent is applied to the CDM to help mobilise resources for developing countries.
A total of 1,081 CDM projects worth 13 billion dollars have been registered in 49 countries, with the potential to avert 152 million tonnes of carbon pollution by 2012.
On present trends, the two-percent levy should provide between 10 and 50 million dollars a year in resources by 2012.
But this income could rise to "some 100 billion dollars annually" if, for the post-2012 period, industrialised countries agree to reduce their emissions by 60 to 80 percent by 2050, de Boer said.
He described this as a "back-of-an-envelope calculation" based on a price for carbon dioxide (CO2) that stays above 10 dollars per tonne. On Friday, CO2 was changing hands in the EU's emissions trading system at 27.5 euros (around 40 dollars) a tonne.
Scientists say time is running out for avoiding lasting damage to the climate system.
Under one scenario sketched last year by the UN's Nobel-winning expert group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), industrialised nations would have to slash their emissions by 25-40 percent by 2020 compared to the 1990 level to help peg warming to two degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit).
And we have ANYTHING to do with the UN, why???
Is the “Climate Chief” the guy that’s in charge of the Rain Dance?
That ship's already sailed, buddy.
I am so sick of seeing this lie printed over, and over, and over, and over, and over again! At some point in time someone should rot in a jail cell for starting this hoax.
Why do we need another pact, isn’t the last one (Kyoto) working well?
Lol.
“Back of the envelope” total takeover of the industrialized world.
And the writer accepts (as fact) every propagandist word they utter.
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“But let's look at the modelled temperature increases associated with each scenario. “Agree and ignore” sees temperatures rise by 4.85C by 2100 (with a 90% probability); for “Kyoto plus”, it's 3.31C; and “step change” 2.89C.”
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These numskulls are so far away from reality that I wonder if they are in an alternate universe!
There is NO way that this is going to occur. Even in the unlikely event that the present temperature trend continued, the most that temperatures would rise is about 1.5C. (Of course, they are probably postulating that temperatures be measured in the heart of growing residential areas instead of having the actual temperature of Earth measured.)
Moreover, and more importantly, we STILL have not started solar cycle 24. It is by now well established that the length of the solar cycle is well correlated to the temperature of Earth, though the mechanisms are still to be well understood. Most solar scientists agree that the Sun is now hotter than it has been for at least 8,000 years, and most are predicting that it is going to be much cooler during the next 50 years.
Over the last 200+ years, the solar cycle has averaged almost exactly 132 months = 11 years.
Cycles 18-23 (1944 to 1996) averaged a short 125 months long. (Thus the higher temp)
This cycle now is over 144 months long, and still counting. There have been a couple cycle 24 spots, but there are still more cycle 23 spots.
There is a very strong negative correlation of cycle length with Earth’s temperature. My recollection of this is that it amounts to about 0.1C / 100 days, and I’m going to just depend on that memory for purposes of this post. If accurate, the implication then, is that this particular cycle has already set us up for a temperature decrease of 0.57C compared to 1944-1996. That means ITS GOING TO GET COLDER, folks, not warmer!
I am far more concerned about falling world-wide temperatures than a degree or two of warmer temps. If these dolts also reduce the CO2 in the atmosphere, it will slow the growth of badly needed plant material, and add to the problems of our world and its people. Pretty much par for the course, for socialists and politicians, though.
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“de Boer said developing countries were still awaiting a signal from industrialised economies about what they intended to put on the table, especially “the critical ingredient” of money.”
Nothing new here. Of course that money will just fatten the accounts of government officials in those hell holes.
“Scientists say time is running out for avoiding lasting damage to the climate system.”
Sadly, it’s already too late for me to avoid violent mid-digestion expulsions when thinking about the IPCC and the UN.
They owe me the cost of my Pepto Bismol.
Last Tuesday Great Falls MT had some sudden flurries of “Global Warming.” I thought I was going to bring out the Snowblower.
Taylor continued, "For example, ICSC scientist Dr. Vincent Gray recently published Unsound Science by the IPCC, which proves the main claims by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are scientifically unsound. Dr. Gray is an expert reviewer for the IPCC and has submitted more than 1,800 comments on IPCC reports. He is an expert on the IPCC methodology and published Spinning the Climate.
"Dr. Gray is the last person the politicized UN wants speaking," Taylor noted. "He single-handedly debunks the entire alarmist theory. And there are more than 600 Dr. Grays trying to be the voice of reason and science. All are being censored."
Tayor said, "The ICSC scientists don't agree with the pre-determined 'Bali Mandate,' so instead of discussion and debate, we get censorship. Until the UN rejects the politicization of climate change, their reports, protocols, and mandates aren't worth reading--much less ratifying."
Gorebull warming must be true.
He won the Noble prize!
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