Bathroom Wars

Breakpoint ^ | June 6, 2008 | Chuck Colson

[Fichori]

I don’t know much about the French.

What was their good idea?

[TASMANIANRED]

Politicians...guillotine.

You have to fill in the elipsis..Don’t want to be accused of threatening any one..

[Doe Eyes]

I read thought the bill from a link posted above,

Senate Bill 08-200

but if was difficult to figure out which section allows trans-gendered men access to womens restrooms.

Anyone?

[Fichori]

The bold is original.
ALL CAPS is [I think] the text that has been amended in, and the struck out is what has been removed.
The red is what I have highlighted for emphasis.

SECTION 6. 24-34-601 (1) and (2), Colorado Revised Statutes, are amended to read:
24-34-601. Discrimination in places of public accommodation.
PAGE 5-SENATE BILL 08-200

(1) As used in this part 6, "place of public accommodation" means any place of business engaged in any sales to the public and any place offering services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations to the public, including but not limited to any business offering wholesale or retail sales to the public; any place to eat, drink, sleep, or rest, or any combination thereof; any sporting or recreational area and facility; any public transportation facility; a barber shop, bathhouse, swimming pool, bath, steam or massage parlor, gymnasium, or other establishment conducted to serve the health, appearance, or physical condition of a person; a campsite or trailer camp; a dispensary, clinic, hospital, convalescent home, or other institution for the sick, ailing, aged, or infirm; a mortuary, undertaking parlor, or cemetery; an educational institution; or any public building, park, arena, theater, hall, auditorium, museum, library, exhibit, or public facility of any kind whether indoor or outdoor. "PLACE OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION" SHALL NOT INCLUDE A CHURCH, SYNAGOGUE, MOSQUE, OR OTHER PLACE THAT IS PRINCIPALLY USED FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSES.

(2) It is a discriminatory practice and unlawful for a person, directly or indirectly, to refuse, withhold from, or deny to an individual or a group, because of disability, race, creed, color, sex, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status, national origin, or ancestry, the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation or, directly or indirectly, to publish, circulate, issue, display, post, or mail any written, ELECTRONIC, or printed communication, notice, or advertisement which THAT indicates that the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation will be refused, withheld from, or denied an individual or that an individual's patronage or presence at a place of public accommodation is unwelcome, objectionable, unacceptable, or undesirable because of disability, race, creed, color, sex, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status, national origin, or ancestry.

[Red emphasis mine]

In paragraph 1, we see what is covered by this amendment, including facilities.
(What kind of facilities does Macdonald's have?)

In paragraph 2, we learn that it is "a discriminatory practice and unlawful" to "publish, circulate, issue, display, post" anything that indicates the "full and equal enjoyment" of the "accommodations of a place of public accommodation will be refused" based on their "SEXUAL ORIENTATION".

In other words, the little sign on the ladies restroom is discriminatory against men who think they are women.(But don't look like the picture on the door)

Or, saying a room is for women only is discriminatory.(I think that will cover dressing rooms in malls also)

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but thats the way it looks to me.

[Doe Eyes]

In other words, the little sign on the ladies restroom is discriminatory against men who think they are women.

I don't agree that's what the law says, nor is that the intent.

[Fichori]

"I don't agree that's what the law says, nor is that the intent."

I think the gays would disagree with you, and I think the activist judges would back them up.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Maryland “Freak State” PING!

[Albion Wilde]

Go to any sporting event in the country and you will see women using mens restrooms.

Yes, this is due to the age-old problem of building the same-sized restrooms for men and for women, when in fact women do need bigger restrooms with more stalls. Although I hear that in Europe they are trying to do away with urinals in men's rooms as well, because the very fact that they exist offends feminists.

Even if they mandated all stalls for both genders, women would still need more toilets than men because they have to go more frequently due to their unique plumbing and reproductive functions.

What's that old saying? — "We can put a man on the moon but"... we can't build women's restrooms that move the line along equally with men's.

[philetus]

In a free country, nobody has the right to tell us what to believe—or to punish us for putting our First Amendment rights into practice.”

We do not have a free country any more.

[Fichori]

We are on that slippery and evil slope.

Front row seats to the American Finale: Free.

Getting to see the look on the liberals faces when they find out what American patriots are really like: Priceless.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Wow, I’ve not heard anyone complain (or otherwise comment) on the racing board I frequent. You were at THE Belmont, too!

Incidentally, it’s a bit different when it’s known that another “facility” is broken.

[the OlLine Rebel]

“trying to do away with urinals in men’s rooms as well, because the very fact that they exist offends feminists.”

It offends people with modicums of modesty. It disgusts me that men pull it out in front of everyone, especially when supposedly they are so insecure that they won’t be as “big” as some other guy. It’s actually undoubtedly an accomodation for their laziness, wherein men hate to take time to do anything, such as close and lock a door.

“Even if they mandated all stalls for both genders, women would still need more toilets than men because they have to go more frequently due to their unique plumbing and reproductive functions.”

You think women have problems with plumbing compared to men? Why? As for the reproductive, little happens except changing sanitary items during a normal plumbing routine. Rarely does 1 go in just to change said item.

[ncpatriot]

We are rapidly turning into Europe.

I don't want to be like Europe. I like my own country. It is not perfect, but I love it, not Europe

[ml/nj]

I’ve not heard anyone complain (or otherwise comment) on the racing board I frequent.

There were several comments on Steve Crist's blog.

ML/NJ

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Quite correct - some parts of this country going mad faster than others....