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How Many Rights Are Democrats Willing to Forfeit?
Family Decurity Matters ^ | 6 June 2008 | Frank Salvato

Posted on 06/06/2008 5:44:02 AM PDT by K-oneTexas

How Many Rights Are Democrats Willing to Forfeit? by Frank Salvato

With the announcement that Hillary Clinton is abandoning her quest for the Oval Office the Democrat National Committee (DNC) - and specifically the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee - has effectively selected the candidate for their party. I say selected because, by construct, the decision making process was taken away from the party faithful and placed in the hands of an elitist class of party insiders. These party insiders - superdelegates and the DNC Executive Committee - have literally usurped the will of the people by marginalizing the popular vote in deference to manipulated vote worth and their own self-importance.

The right to vote - the right to have our votes count - is the fundamental bedrock of our Constitutional Republic. It is through this fundamental right, this Constitutional Right, that We the People affect our control over government. Through our ballot choices we select delegates to the Electoral College who represent our amassed votes. These delegates, in turn, vote for the President of the United States. This process serves as a safeguard against mob rule and the bad choices to which emotionalism can lead. The Framers were brilliant in this respect.

Party politics is a bit different, although it has been based on this model in the past.

Through the primary process the electorate selects delegates to represent them at the party conventions. These delegates, representing the will of the people and bound to the victorious candidate in each respective state - at least in the first round of voting - then cast their votes for their party's presidential nominee. At least that's how it is supposed to work.

Enter the superdelegate.

In 1982, the Hunt Commission recommended to the DNC a rule that set aside delegate slots for select congressional Democrats and state party chairs and vice chairs. Ironically, the commission felt that by empowering an elitist class of delegate they would safeguard the process from being manipulated by the party leadership.

In 1998 the category of superdelegate ballooned to include all Democrat governors and DNC committee members. In 1992 additional superdelegate slots were allocated to the states to cover party leaders and elected officials not covered by previous definitions. And in 1996 each Democrat member of Congress was awarded superdelegate status. At the August 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, superdelegates will make up approximately one-fifth of the total number of delegates. Please keep in mind that these superdelegates were not elected by the people to represent anything at the party convention.

Enter the DNC Executive Committee under Howard Dean; the über elitists of the DNC.

During the 2008 primary election cycle the DNC Executive Committee penalized the states of Michigan and Florida for executing their primaries before the committee said it could execute them. Initially, both of these states were to lose their delegates to the convention and have their state's vote totals ignored. As we all know, the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee voted last week to allow the Michigan and Florida delegates to be seated but in doing so devalued their votes to only half that of the other states' delegates.

These initial and subsequent decisions by the DNC and the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee have resulted in Hillary Clinton having received a majority of the popular vote and Barack Obama receiving an adjusted majority of the delegates.

Further, without the role of the superdelegates neither of the candidates would have attained an unbeatable number of delegates for the nominating process at the convention, thus creating the need for an open convention, a convention where the candidates would literally have to court each vote from each delegate.

By manipulating the worth of the votes that will be cast by the Florida and Michigan delegates and by the existence of superdelegates to the weight of 20% of the total vote, the DNC under Howard Dean has literally selected their party's candidate over the will of the Democrat populace, evidenced by the total popular vote.

This is astounding.

The very idea of the "superdelegate" (and yes, the GOP has them as well but in vastly smaller numbers) lends itself to the Socialist dogma of the elitist class; a class of government official and politician that knows better what is good for the party - for the nation - than those they would govern. Regardless of the fact that these superdelegates were elected at one point, they were elected to do a much different job then that of electing a candidate to represent the party. In essence, they represent the party and not the proletariat...I mean party members.

Then there is the decision by the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee that literally resurrected the concept of a human's worth being just three-fifths (in this case one-half) the worth of another. By slashing the value of the Florida and Michigan delegates' votes the DNC has literally told the voters in Michigan and Florida that they - politically - are worth half that of the voters in every other state. It matters not that these Florida and Michigan Democrats have donated hard-earned money to the party, money that the party willingly took and spent. It matters not that honest and hardworking Florida and Michigan Democrats knocked on doors, put up yard signs, got petitions signed, etc. The Florida and Michigan Democrat organizations usurped the authority of Howard Dean and the voters are to be punished for it.

Perhaps I am being too literal here, too beholden to our rights as they are afforded under the US Constitution, maybe I adhere to the reality that our country is governed by We the People and not a group of elitists who want to emulate the Socialist class system of government, but it seems to me that the DNC hierarchy is disenfranchising their own party members. It seems to me that from the DNC's refusal to "count every vote" and their refusal to recognize the one-man-one-vote system of representative government we embrace in this country they are refusing to recognize each citizen's right to vote; each citizen's right of governmental oversight. In essence, the DNC has stolen this election from their own party members by commandeering the candidate selection process. Talk about affirmative action!

All this said, two questions stand out as questions each and every Democrat must ask themselves as they head into this election: What other constitutional rights are you willing to forfeit? And what other constitutional rights is the DNC preparing to deny?


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KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; obama; salvato; superdelegates
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1 posted on 06/06/2008 5:44:02 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas
What rightsd are they willing to forfeit ?

To achieve their socialist utopia .... all of them .... theirs and ours

2 posted on 06/06/2008 5:46:08 AM PDT by clamper1797 (GWB was shock and awe ... Nobama is shuck and jive)
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To: K-oneTexas
How Many Rights Are Democrats Willing to Forfeit?

First, let's fix it: How Many Rights Are Marxist democrats Willing to Forfeit?

Answer: Everybody's but theirs.............

3 posted on 06/06/2008 5:46:20 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: K-oneTexas

Kind of like joining a home owners association.


4 posted on 06/06/2008 5:52:16 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: K-oneTexas

Hillary won the Democratic primary.

But the Democrats backed slavery, too.
So 1/2, 3/5th is all their idea to begin with.


5 posted on 06/06/2008 5:52:56 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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6 posted on 06/06/2008 5:53:06 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: K-oneTexas
'Rats don't really want us to forfeit any rights at all, No Way! The total sum of our rights must be, and WILL be, maintained.

This is very easy for 'Rats to do... we just have to replace some rights with others, so the total stays the same, with some refinements. For example, take away right to liberty, replace with right to abortion. Take away right to keep and bear arms, and enhance rights with a right to free health care. Take away right to persue happiness, and upgrade to a right to a decent standard of living.

This way, we do not lose any amount of rights, while at the same time, improving the village we all live in and share.

7 posted on 06/06/2008 5:55:22 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: K-oneTexas

DEMOCRATS EXPOSED!

Only party elites are allowed to have *real* power.

The people are only given lip service to the value of their vote.

This is what an Obama Presidency and Democrat controlled Congress will bring.

If you think the grassroots can stop them (like we did on immigration, etc) you are fooling yourself.


8 posted on 06/06/2008 5:59:38 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Party insiders choosing a candidate???? I know that’s never happened before. /s


9 posted on 06/06/2008 6:07:04 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: K-oneTexas
In 1982, the Hunt Commission recommended to the DNC a rule that set aside delegate slots for select congressional Democrats and state party chairs and vice chairs. Ironically, the commission felt that by empowering an elitist class of delegate they would safeguard the process from being manipulated by the party leadership.

There is no irony here, nor could this have been an accident. Unless the members of the Hunt Commission are afflicted wtih stupidity on an unprecedented scale, the only logical explanation for SuperDelegates is that they were created specifically so that the party leadership could manipulate the process.

I am pleased that the SuperDelegates chose not to exercise the power for which they were created. Hillary has the inside experience to have accomplished more of her goals and done more damage than a weak and inexperienced outsider such as Obama could ever have threatened. In the event that Obama wins, the country will lose the war. We will lose more freedom. Still, Obama lacks the experience and the connections to do as much harm as an insider like Hillary would have caused. Recovering from a loss is Iraq (and we can still lose simply by "ending" the war before victory) will be expensive in money and lives. Still, a loss under Obama is better than giving Hillary 4-8 years to lose the war and consolidate her power.

10 posted on 06/06/2008 6:07:44 AM PDT by RogerD (public school teacher)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The MSM has really down played the idea that the nomination was decided by Superdelegates. They are doing their best not to inform the people.
Hillary could high light the situation by sticking around..but she needs Hussein’s money.


11 posted on 06/06/2008 6:07:55 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: K-oneTexas

All are equal, but some are more equal than others.

That is too true of the superdelegates concept.

It gives those ‘superdelegates’ substantial influence in the actual convention voting. A superdelegate’s vote is worth many times more than a regular delegate’s vote.

For the Dems, the superdelegates represent about 27% of the delegate voting.

For the GOP (who deny they have superdelegates), their ‘special elite’ represent about 18% of their delegate voting.

For both Parties, all the delegates are equal, but some of the delegates are more equal than others — to ensure that the regular voting public don’t screw up and vote in some nominee whom the Party elite don’t want.


12 posted on 06/06/2008 6:11:20 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: K-oneTexas

I say selected because, by construct, the decision making process was taken away from the party faithful and placed in the hands of an elitist class of party insiders. These party insiders - superdelegates and the DNC Executive Committee - have literally usurped the will of the people by marginalizing the popular vote in deference to manipulated vote worth and their own self-importance.

UH, EXCUSE ME...to the writer of this article: Those rules were set up by the Democrats themselves so...what is unfair about it? They made their bed now they have to lie in it.


13 posted on 06/06/2008 6:11:48 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: K-oneTexas

RIGHTS???? What rights? You don’t got no stinking rights if the Marxists are elected again in November. Americans are giving up their rights, left and right, for what? FREE F’ing STUFF!!!! Give me free, give me MTV, give me porn. Give me mine FREE. To hell with America and rights. GOVERNMENT will take care of me and I don’t need rights. They, AND ONLY THEY, know what is RIGHT for me. Dimocrats, communists, socialists, fagots, punks, pukes, so called movie stars, so called rock stars, they know best. We are the stupid. Led by the totally incompetent, going down the toilet of history in one great flush in November. If Obama wins folks, COUNT ON IT, life as we now know it will TOTALLY start changing come January 20th. ALL HELL WILL COME TO THE TOP. Count on it. Payback to talk radio and conservative anything will start. Fairness doctrine, whatever, will reign. They will attempt to ban conservative Internet sites, etc. Count on it. Liberal judges will make it happen. Maybe Commissar Obama makes Hillary AND Bill supreme court justices, just to shut them up and get rid of them. The crash and stripping of rights will be greater than anything seen in human history.


14 posted on 06/06/2008 6:12:51 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (No matter which one is elected, America may very well never recover from the damage to be done.)
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To: K-oneTexas

This is the model the Socialists in America has for all Americans, and when I say Socialists I mean Democrat ans Republican Socialists, aka RINO’s scumbags that they are.


15 posted on 06/06/2008 6:15:27 AM PDT by stockpirate (McCain betrayed his conservative roots, conservatives, his party and America.)
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To: clamper1797

Seriously, the older (single) white women libs that I know are willing to give up all their freedoms in order to have the gov’t take care of them.

Correlation between rise of socialism and the 19th amendment: 1.0


16 posted on 06/06/2008 6:17:28 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: clamper1797

Not all of them. They will fight tooth and nail to keep the right to murder their unborn babies. And they will NEVER give up their “right” to other people’s money.


17 posted on 06/06/2008 6:22:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: K-oneTexas
maybe I adhere to the reality that our country is governed by We the People and not a group of elitists who want to emulate the Socialist class system of government

Not sure what country this guy's been living in, but the U.S. has been governed by a group of elitists for at least the last 10 years, and it is getting more elitist (not to mention Socialist) by the day.

18 posted on 06/06/2008 6:22:39 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: gracesdad

I like your comment. So truthful.


19 posted on 06/06/2008 6:23:05 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: K-oneTexas
too beholden to our rights as they are afforded under the US Constitution

After Little Frankie writes 500 times "THE US CONSTITUTION APPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT, NOT TO PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS", we can start to consider treating him like a grownup.

20 posted on 06/06/2008 6:45:34 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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