Posted on 06/02/2008 6:18:58 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
Funny, but avoiding the fact that every problem we see today is the result of the transference of the consequences for personal behavior decisions onto someone else -
like murdered babies, increased crime rates, increased taxes to pay for housing, food, etc, for the results of irresponsible jubbly rubbin.
I apologize for calling the 13 YO a sleaze. I wish I could edit my post.
Yes it is.
Where are all of the "where were the 13 year old girls like this when I was 22" remarks? Or why aren't people talking about how "lucky" this girl is?
Bill Clinton was THE modern example of “canine morality”:
“if you can’t eat it or screw it, p!$$ on it”
And I maintain that all those programs actually INCREASE the occurence of the choices that lead to the programs being “needed” in the first place.
Not unless you don't see any difference between "taking personal responsibility" and the state making you responsible for paying someone else to do it.
Celibacy works every time it’s tried, but it ain’t much fun!
Contrast lack of Children’s Protective Services actions, with those of Texas CPS vs. the FLDS people.
Touche. Taking personal responsibility at gunpoint, then (although that used to involve a pregnant gal, a worried minister, and an angry dad with a shotgun).
Creative! I'll bet 90% of kids today have never heard something so original. Now if we can just spread your idea, we may solve a whole lot of problems.
like murdered babies, increased crime rates, increased taxes to pay for housing, food, etc, for the results of irresponsible jubbly rubbin.
That's what turning the problem over to the government to solve does. People aren't content to keep their own house in order, and let that serve as an example. They want the politicians to put everyone else's house in order to their own specifications.
They go running to Washington thinking they're going to get national laws that reflect the values of their local community, and they end up with local laws the reflect the values of the beltway.
One of my employees was having troubles at home. He started spending time in bars, and picking up women. One night, he was spending time IN THE BAR with a young lady, and she was (according to him) kinda "frisky". She offered to go have intercourse with him.
As they were enjoying a few beers (she was drinking beer when he came in), a cop busted the young lady for false ID. She was 17. She accused my guy of obscene things, and got her "get out of jail free" card. He stupidly admitted that they were acting a little randy.
He is presently in prison. He plead to a lesser charge in order to only do two years instead of ten. I will rehire him when he gets out! Of course, he will have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life...
They're being run by bureaucrats and bureaucracies who will get their budgets cut if they actually solve the problem, and they'll get their budgets increased if they exacerbate it. The results are predictable.
They're being run by bureaucrats and bureaucracies who will get their budgets cut if they actually solve the problem, and they'll get their budgets increased if they exacerbate it. The results are predictable.
I’m not the first to make this observation, but:
On IMMORAL SEX, the popular attitude is: “Oh, they’re just going to do it anyway.” BUT —
On CIGARETTES, it’s “No! Don’t! Bad!”
A classic modern movie! Great lines from a truly memorable character. Too bad some people are still “dumber than a bag of hammers.”
Re: this situation, it’s obvious to me that all parties involved share a part of the blame... firstly (in order of the most-responsible to the least) the girl for intentionally, maliciously, and repeatedly stalking men to frame. She’s a public menace and needs to be locked up. Secondly, the girl’s father for allowing her to continue her criminal, malicious, and self-destructive behavior. If this were my daughter, she’d never touch a telephone again in her life, let alone a computer. And she’d be out of the house for school ONLY. This father is not only negligent, his permissiveness is contributing to the delinquency of his minor daughter and is the closest a third party could be to directly responsible without actually performing the act itself. The father needs to lose custody of his daughter as well as spend time behind bars for the harm he’s caused to his daughter and to the men of whom she’s taken advantage. Finally, the young man is responsible for his ill-advised, promiscuous behavior. His responsibility in this case should be considered more of a moral one than a legal one, since he was apparently a victim of entrapment. For his sins, he should be forced to marry the evil tramp when she comes of legal age. That will teach him.
“Guys shouldn’t be picking women up off the internet but who would have expected a 13 y/o to be driving?”
Upon what data is that line based, if I might ask?
Just for background purposes, I met, let’s call her Beauty, on a free Internet site. We emailed back and forth for some weeks, then she suggested coffee. By the time I drove from Tampa to Sarasote, it was nearly 1 AM. And, I don’t particularly like Denny’s, either.
That talk led to an eventual engagement to a woman with the following background:
1. Bachelor’s and Masters from one of America’s leading schools of music.
2. Graduate of Julliard.
3. Held prominent position at well known Florida symphony.
4. She was sufficiently broadly talented that she had debated a career in engineering before deciding on music.
Had she not cut her hair, she would have looked far younger than she was.
PS She was also a trust fund baby.
Still wonder why intelligent men prefer the Internet to bars and the party scene?
The problem is that when the state decided to allow NO Possible Defense WHATSOEVER! against a female who lies about her age, the state violated the Constitution. The state imposed an undue burden, indeed, it imposed, de facto, a mandatory requirement for a negative proof.
Meanwhile, back at what Limbaugh calls the Publik Skools, the educrats are pushing sexual experimentation of all kinds, including assorted, sordid, perversions.
Cognitive dissonance, anyone?
But - who cares about a mere detail when we are “protecting the children”.
It would indeed be best not to be out sleeping around. However, it happened and in this case, the girl is at fault. She lied and this idiot fell for it. Jail time? Nahhh...public shaming? Yes. BTW, I think the girl should receive some sort of criminal punishment as well. Soon she will no longer be a minor and getting men falsely arrested for rape for having consensual sex after a night of doing shots at the local bar....
Everything I read suggests that the age of consent in WVa is 16. What was your employee charged with?
“The point of the law is to punish, and attempt to prevent, adult males from taking advantage of young, naive girls.”
That task once fell to a tested and validated part of society - a group called fathers.
When Liberals allowed goobers in gooberment agencies to take over any part of child rearing, the results were predictable.
With the best of intentions, the voters sent a swarm of AgencyPersons, cops, judges and the obligatory baying, slavering pack of lawyers off on a Mission Impossible.
Government can’t produce responsible parents raising responsible children. Only parents can do that.
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