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Man Sentenced To Prison After Girl's MySpace Page Lies About Age
wftv.com ^ | 05/21/08 | wftv

Posted on 06/02/2008 6:18:58 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

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To: highnoon

Well opinions are everywhere, facts are what matters, and to date the facts don’t support your opinions. Children who are raised by vegitarians still see the same earlier maturity these days, than their grand and great grandparents.

Its overall health and nutrition is vastly improved. Others have put forth theories about other things, but no evidence to date to remotely prove it.

Children are generally healthier and heavier these days, and as I pointed out before, a females body will have her first period right around 110lbs... a weight that is being hit much earlier due to more and healthier food available than ever before. Doubt me on this, go find a gal who’s intentionally starved herself from a young age, you’ll find they not only stunt their outward size, and physiological appearance, but also will not get their first menstration either.

Its biological more than anything... like it or not as a species the purpose is to reproduce. The healthier an individual of a species is the sooner sexual maturity is generally going to occur. And like it or not, we are as a people far more generally healthier today than we have ever been.


101 posted on 06/02/2008 10:46:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Dianna
I believe there are already such laws. Once example -- laws against "attractive nuisances", or laws that demand on a level or probity in public comments. Probity means that we set a standard for speech and action in public below which none may fall, without being subject to arrest and fine or other official rebuke.

For example it could and should be improper to post in public salacious or profane photos of or messages about minors. Or to engage publicly or privately in what would be reasonably viewed in whole context as a solicitation likely to involve sex with a minor.

We may and must -- in a healthy society -- restrict public nudity or excessive displays of physical affection, and restrict the sexual exploitation of the vulnerable. This is not to say we always need laws and police to do so, because history shows that for some few limited times and places civil society has been either careful enough by itself -- or even too harsh -- in such restrictions.

The main thing is that a civil society needs to have both active public discourse and elevating standards of such public discourse and behavior. We need to get we others often, and meet with them in ways that in aggregate improve us all. Yet in getting together with others we need standards. Standards that are upheld through social or through legal compulsion. What happens elsewise? Social regression, strive, poverty, exploitation, anguish, lack of human development.

102 posted on 06/02/2008 10:55:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: CindyDawg

You speak common sense here.


103 posted on 06/02/2008 11:54:43 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: F15Eagle; TornadoAlley3

A future “Crystal Gayle Magnum?”


104 posted on 06/02/2008 11:58:23 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: WVKayaker

Indiana law holds that if the defendant reasonably believes the underage person (usually a female) is of age (over 16 in Indiana) it is a defense to these type of charges. It is not a strict liability offense in Indiana. This makes sense, why punish a person who never intended to break the law.


105 posted on 06/02/2008 12:04:06 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

I’m sorry, but this is entrapment. The man was NOT knowingly doing anything illegal. The father hasn’t reigned in his daughter and *HE* should be in trouble for being a neglectful parent.

He better get out on appeal.


106 posted on 06/02/2008 3:08:33 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: bvw
After all, driving is a more frequent activity than sex, yet we demand that every driver be licensed.

"Why don't we do it in the road?"

No license needed for driving on private property (with permission of the owner), right? IANAL.

107 posted on 06/05/2008 7:36:15 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
True! But that's driving.

If driving were to be the cause of offspring -- but it is not ...

If driving was a major vector of contagious diseases -- but is not ...

Society has legitimate and compelling concerns to be concerned with every act of sex that occurs, because it is by sex that we initiate the next generation, and also because the sex act is a major disease vector of some of the most deadly diseases.

How could we ever have held a person or group in quarantine, if not that it is a duty with respect to certain critical health and safety concerns to reasonably limit liberty?

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A side addition: consider the judicial costs. "Driving" on private property doesn't add to court costs -- if it is a trespass we already have laws addressing that. Sex does add to court costs. Having just sat on a rape jury, where the rape arose behind closed doors, where the man had been invited in -- I can tell you how I wish that we did ban in active law and policing and by common social rebuke all acts of random, unlicensed, uncontracted sex.

108 posted on 06/05/2008 8:44:37 AM PDT by bvw
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