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To: John123
because the Jewish icons were there BEFORE Mohammad was born in 570 CE

Not to quible, but there were no "icons" - the etymology of the word proves that such would be the opposite. No idols, no "icons." Only a building, furnature, and the Dwelling Presence of the Almighty.
47 posted on 06/01/2008 5:19:25 PM PDT by safisoft
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To: safisoft
Only a building, furnature, and the Dwelling Presence of the Almighty.

That is what I meant. :)

51 posted on 06/01/2008 5:35:16 PM PDT by John123 (Obama said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: safisoft
Not to quible, but there were no "icons" - the etymology of the word proves that such would be the opposite. No idols, no "icons." Only a building, furnature, and the Dwelling Presence of the Almighty.

Safisoft, isn't what you are saying here directly contradicted by the description of the temple in the bible? The bible explicitly describes paintings and statues of Angels not only in the temple but right in the inner sanctum of the temple. Not just one or two icons and statues of angels, but all over the place described at length in detail.

And Solomon overlaid the inside of the house with pure gold, and he drew chains of gold across, in front of the inner sanctuary, and overlaid it with gold. And he overlaid the whole house with gold, until all the house was finished. Also the whole altar that belonged to the inner sanctuary he overlaid with gold. In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits high. Five cubits was the length of one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the length of the other wing of the cherub; it was ten cubits from the tip of one wing to the tip of the other. The other cherub also measured ten cubits; both cherubim had the same measure and the same form. The height of one cherub was ten cubits and so was that of the other cherub. He put the cherubim in the innermost part of the house; and the wings of the cherubim were spread out so that a wing of one touched the one wall, and a wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; their other wings touched each other in the middle of the house. And he overlaid the cherubim with gold.

He carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubim and palm trees and open flowers, in the inner and outer rooms.
The floor of the house he overlaid with gold in the inner and outer rooms. For the entrance to the inner sanctuary he made doors of olive wood; the lintel and the doorposts formed a pentagon. He covered the two doors of olive wood with carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers; he overlaid them with gold, and spread gold upon the cherubim and upon the palm trees. So also he made for the entrance to the nave doorposts of olive wood, in the form of a square, and two doors of cypress wood; the two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding. On them he carved cherubim and palm trees and open flowers; and he overlaid them with gold evenly applied upon the carved work.

72 posted on 06/02/2008 2:00:31 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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