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Marine in Iraq Pulled From Duty After Allegedly Handing Out Christian Coins
Associated Press ^ | day, May 30, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/30/2008 5:57:49 PM PDT by daniel1212

BAGHDAD — A U.S. Marine handed out coins promoting Christianity to Muslims in the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, outraged Sunni officials said Friday. The U.S. military responded quickly, removing a trooper from duty pending an investigation.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bible; christian; christiantroops; evangelism; fallujah; iraq; marines
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This man is a real hero. We have some of the coins i think the Marine was giving out. John 3:16 is on one side and a sinner's prayer on the other.

I actually think the AP is more upset than many Muslims.

After WW2 general McArthur wanted 1,000 missionaries as soon as possible in Japan.

I used to suggest that maybe giving out "Chick" type tract showing where suicide bombers really go after the die - and how to really live thru Jesus instead - would both be a deterrent and means of salvation to many.

1 posted on 05/30/2008 5:57:50 PM PDT by daniel1212
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2 posted on 05/30/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: daniel1212

Inappropriate conduct? I have to say, it took guts.


3 posted on 05/30/2008 6:05:53 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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This man is a real hero.

No he isn't. From the article: "Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war."

Among other things he is violating a direct order and in deriliction of his duties at the checkpoint. He is endangering the lives of his fellow soldiers, and stirring up local resentment when the strategy in place is to work with the local populace to ensure peace, stability and transition to Iraqi control [and hopefully, when appropriate American withdrawal].

Ill considered acts like these undermine the work and sacrifice of everyone who is serving, everyone who has given life and limb, and the American public who are paying for this.

4 posted on 05/30/2008 6:07:01 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: daniel1212

A warrior preaching the teachings of Jesus to conquered people.

There is some irony obvious here. Can’t quite pinpoint it yet..


5 posted on 05/30/2008 6:10:34 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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To: AndyJackson

All our Marines should give out Christian coins and BIBLES AND CROSSES.

islam is the problem

This Marine earned the right to hand out christian anything, the problem is we have a President who sits down with the enemy and celebrates their ramadingdong dinners instead of standing with his Marines.


6 posted on 05/30/2008 6:15:41 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Incorrigible

Despite my commendation of the Marine, it cannot work like that (State supported much less enforced evangelism). But as far as physical war is concerned, there is no country that is viably Biblically Christian that is or would be a military threat to the U.S.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 6:19:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him. He only is my rock)
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To: TomasUSMC

What you are saying doesn’t make sense.

Here’s this marine, at a checkpoint, with a gun, ready to fire, or to restrict access to these people’s own neighborhood.
He is handing out coins that preach a religion of love, turning the other cheek, peace and non-violence.

Do you see something wrong here?


8 posted on 05/30/2008 6:19:52 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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He most certainly did not earn that right if, as was said above, he did it in direct disobedience to an order. He is no different that anyone else who disobeys an order.
I am a Christian and a Marine.
9 posted on 05/30/2008 6:27:37 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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I sympathize with him, and I wish we would do more to encourage conversions in Iraq, instead of sitting on our hands while the Muslims there kill and drive out the remaining Christians in their country.

But I also agree that when you are in the military, you have to obey orders.

Maybe it could be justified when he was off duty, but I’m not sure if you can really be off duty in what amounts to a war zone.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 6:32:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Charlemagne conquered the Saxons and gave them the choice of conversion to Christianity or death. Later, at what is called the ‘Massacre of Verden,’ he executed thousands of Saxons who reverted to their old religion.

It worked. Today almost all Saxons are Christians.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 6:36:28 PM PDT by FFranco
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"Do you see something wrong here?"

Yes, why aren't the rest of the troops doing the same?

12 posted on 05/30/2008 6:39:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: FFranco

Are you suggesting that one way or the other, we should do this to Iraqis?


13 posted on 05/30/2008 6:39:33 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sounds like your Christianity and my Christianity don’t share the same motives and values.


14 posted on 05/30/2008 6:42:32 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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I sympathize with him, and I wish we would do more to encourage conversions in Iraq

The moment Iraqi's perceive that our mission is proselytizing at gunpoint rather than suppressing disruptive forces from Al Qaeda and other insurgents is the day we become the target. Again. We already tried being the enemy there. That did not work out to well for us.

This kind of nonsense just plays into the hands of our detractors, undermines our mission and will get folks killed.

15 posted on 05/30/2008 6:42:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Past Your Eyes
"I am a Christian and a Marine."

You're deluded.

A Marine, perhaps, but not an obedient Christian. The Gospel must come first in all situations. Anything else is a victory for the prince of this world.

16 posted on 05/30/2008 6:42:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: aristotleman

No.


17 posted on 05/30/2008 6:43:28 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: editor-surveyor

Because they’re part of the military and a secular governmental organization. They’re not missionaries.


18 posted on 05/30/2008 6:44:26 PM PDT by Shadow44
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"Sounds like your Christianity and my Christianity don’t share the same motives and values."

Definately. Yours sounds like Peter's denial of Christ at the trial.

19 posted on 05/30/2008 6:45:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: FFranco

Evangelism is the peace time job of the preacher.

A warrior, in the midst of a violent environment, is not really a good representative of Jesus.


20 posted on 05/30/2008 6:46:54 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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