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1 posted on 05/30/2008 7:32:21 AM PDT by MissouriConservative
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Oh good grief.


2 posted on 05/30/2008 7:33:02 AM PDT by MissouriConservative (In debates over individual liberties, fabricated and propagandized science should play no role.)
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What a bunch of loosers.


3 posted on 05/30/2008 7:33:58 AM PDT by Wolfie
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this iz stoopid


4 posted on 05/30/2008 7:34:06 AM PDT by rattrap
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ZOMG we all be teh 1337 h4x0rz nao.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 7:36:50 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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7 posted on 05/30/2008 7:38:04 AM PDT by indcons
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The spelen be - wat a bncha loozers-—its consept an it’s roolz ar soooo laik over.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 7:38:06 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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On a side note, I find it sad that in this era of global economic competitiveness, where better and better jobs are being lost overseas, that the most celebrated intellectual competition in the US is a spelling bee.

How quaint.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 7:38:51 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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Spelling phonetically introduces all sorts of problems into the written language such as phonetic “accents” and slang pronunciations. It’s hard enough to understand everyone in our society as it is, to further dumb things down on a written level as well is not a good idea.


13 posted on 05/30/2008 7:40:53 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter “c” would be dropped
to be replased either by “k” or “s”, and likewise “x” would no longer
be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which “c” would be retained
would be the “ch” formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2
might reform “w” spelling, so that “which” and “one” would take the
same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish “y” replasing it with
“i” and Iear 4 might fiks the “g/j” anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear
with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12
or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.
Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi
ridandant letez “c”, “y” and “x” — bai now jast a memori in the maindz
ov ould doderez — tu riplais “ch”, “sh”, and “th” rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.


15 posted on 05/30/2008 7:43:50 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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Spelling reform is currently enjoying a renaissance in the U.S. and Britain.

I could go along with that (if it had a chance in hell). Few people realize what a science phonetics is, and how badly English represents it. To most, each sound used to construct words seem random, but did you know that they can all be fitted neatly in a matrix and the exact relation between each one identified? The English alphabet doesn't account for this at all, is missing several sounds that require letter combinations instead, and has repetitious letters that aren't even needed (C, Q, and X specifically). Other sounds can't be represented at all, and must be assumed.
21 posted on 05/30/2008 7:49:07 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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24 posted on 05/30/2008 7:56:16 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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Actually I see their point. How much easier to teach a child to read in many other languages than English.


25 posted on 05/30/2008 7:59:32 AM PDT by Dante3
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Just introduce the Decabet (hey, it’s metric!) /obscure


29 posted on 05/30/2008 8:08:50 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling

by Mark Twain

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

32 posted on 05/30/2008 8:11:45 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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...ours is a mongrel language which started with a child's vocabulary of three hundred words, and now consists of two hundred and twenty-five thousand; the whole lot, with the exception of the original and legitimate three hundred, borrowed, stolen, smouched from every unwatched language under the sun, the spelling of each individual word of the lot locating the source of the theft and preserving the memory of the revered crime.

- Mark Twain's Autobiography

33 posted on 05/30/2008 8:14:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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English phonetics is a discombobulated mess.

One of the things that amazed me when I took German was how almost every word is spelled exactly as it sounds.

I have a buddy who speaks three languages and competes in several adult spelling bees annually, and I asked him about this. He said that spelling bees are for the most part an English only event, since it wouldn't occur to non-English language speakers to make a contest out of spelling, since it is rarely challenging in any language other than English.

37 posted on 05/30/2008 8:29:47 AM PDT by GunRunner
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Here's the new dictionary for the National Spelling Bee:

http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/

39 posted on 05/30/2008 8:34:42 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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Reformers, including Mark Twain, Charles Darwin and Theodore Roosevelt, argued that phonetic spellings would make it easier for children, foreigners and adults with learning disabilities to read and write.

This is simply not true. A large number of the children with learning disabilities that I work with have little to no phonics skills and are dependent upon the development of site word vocabulary to learn how to read and write. Using a phonics based system would not help, but would certainly hinder their progress.

40 posted on 05/30/2008 8:39:03 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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Reformers, including Mark Twain, Charles Darwin and Theodore Roosevelt, argued that phonetic spellings would make it easier for children, foreigners and adults with learning disabilities to read and write.

This is simply not true. A large number of the children with learning disabilities that I work with have little to no phonics skills and are dependent upon the development of sight word vocabulary to learn how to read and write. Using a phonics based system would not help, but would certainly hinder their progress.

41 posted on 05/30/2008 8:39:38 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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I am reminded of the movie Idiocracy where 500 years in the future the English language has been reduced to a mixture of Hillbilly, Valley Girl and street talk and spelling has been reduced to crude phonetic renditions of words.
42 posted on 05/30/2008 8:47:12 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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