[MD_Willington_1976]

.357 is a hoped up “9” as is .357 Sig and 9x23...

[Cobra64]

.357 is a hoped up “9” as is .357 Sig and 9x23...

I think I got that figured out.

Some of my samples...

Ruger Vaquero .357 magnum

Ruger Blackhawk .357 magnum

Sig Sauer P232SL 9mm Kurz

Sig Sauer P239TT 9mm parabellum

Sig Sauer P229ST .357 Sig

Sig Sauer P226ST 9mm parabellum

Sig Sauer P220ST .45 Auto

[Joe 6-pack]

".357 is a hoped up “9” as is .357 Sig and 9x23..."

Don't forget the original "hopped up" 9...