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'British values mean nothing to me,' says the gipsy mother who forced her daughter to marry at 13
Daily Mail ^ | 12 May 2008 | TOM KELLY

Posted on 05/20/2008 6:37:41 AM PDT by forkinsocket

The gipsy mother who forced her daughter of 13 to marry a 14-year-old boy yesterday dismissed British values as irrelevant to her.

Renata Gural said she was unconcerned by the outrage over the teenagers' Romany wedding ceremony at a pub in East London.

Mrs Gural, 31, who is pregnant with her sixth child, said: "I'm not bothered what anyone thinks.

"I'll be the one who decides if my daughter is old enough to marry. I got married when I was 14 in such a ceremony and it hasn't done me any harm.

"Just because I live in Britain doesn't mean I've got to behave the way you lot think is right. I'll live my life the way I want and that includes the way I bring up my kids.

"I don't care what the neighbours think, or social services. It's not my problem people around here don't understand our culture and values."

The Daily Mail revealed earlier this month how her daughter, Bozena, married Bezo, the son of another gipsy family originally from Poland, in front of 150 guests at the Central pub in East Ham.

A community elder clasped the couple to his chest, bound their hands in a scarf, kissed them both on the lips and pronounced them man and wife.

The guests then danced all night as a Polish band played raucous gipsy music.

Bozena said yesterday she was "really happy" with married life, adding: "For the first time in my life I feel like a proper grown-up.

"Before I was just a little girl and then suddenly there I was ? married. That's every girl's dream isn't it?"

Bozena continues to share a cramped two-bedroom terraced house in East Ham, with 14 relatives. Her parents do not make her, or any of her siblings, go to school.

Neighbours say the family, who live on benefits and do not pay rent, are terrorising the street by playing loud music late at night, throwing rubbish into neighbours' gardens and spitting on their windows.

Bezo wants his young bride Bozena to move in with him and his parents two miles away in Manor Park.

But she wants to stay at home, saying she would miss her mother if she left.

Her mother insisted the young couple had not consummated the marriage and that she will not allow her daughter to have sex until she is 18.

Their marriage is not recognised under British law, but there are fears that similar underground ceremonies could become common as the number of gypsies in Britain rises following the eastwards expansion of the EU.

Romania and Poland, which have large Romany gipsy (or Roma) populations, have taken a tough stance on such weddings by threatening prosecutions on underage sex charges.

This has led to concerns that they may move to the UK instead.

Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Nicholson, a long-time campaigner against child weddings, claimed the young couple would "be scarred for life" by the experience.

They married on April 28 after a deal stuck between their fathers soon after they arrived in Britain three years ago.

There are estimated to be nearly 100,000 Roma in Britain, although no figures are available for how many have arrived from Eastern Europe. For centuries they have encouraged their children to marry young.

Often girls are "promised" to a boy from the age of seven or eight in return for a cash dowry. It is considered essential that the girl is a virgin.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: diversity; gypsies; marriage; roma; uk
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1 posted on 05/20/2008 6:37:41 AM PDT by forkinsocket
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'British values mean nothing to me,' says the gipsy mother

Except for the free medical, the dole, free food, subsidized housing, etc.

2 posted on 05/20/2008 6:39:33 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Mrs Gural, 31, who is pregnant with her sixth child, said: "I'm not bothered what anyone thinks. "I'll be the one who decides if my daughter is old enough to marry. I got married when I was 14 in such a ceremony and it hasn't done me any harm. "Just because I live in Britain doesn't mean I've got to behave the way you lot think is right. I'll live my life the way I want and that includes the way I bring up my kids. "I don't care what the neighbours think, or social services. It's not my problem people around here don't understand our culture and values."

Careful, lady, the socialist gestapo will soon snatch your values away in the name of "morality".
3 posted on 05/20/2008 6:40:32 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: forkinsocket

“Dance, gypsy, dance!!!”


4 posted on 05/20/2008 6:44:14 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: forkinsocket

PROPER RESPONSE: Gypsy values mean nothing to British LAW.


5 posted on 05/20/2008 6:44:24 AM PDT by ikka
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To: forkinsocket
Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Nicholson, a long-time campaigner against child weddings, claimed the young couple would "be scarred for life" by the experience.

Does she think the same thing about the millions of teenagers in Britain who are having sex, having babies, having abortions? Or just the handful who happen to be married?

It sounds like young Bozena is better off than a Pakistani girl would be - she's not married to a first cousin three times her age.

6 posted on 05/20/2008 6:46:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("If Global Warming did not exist, the left would have to invent it. In fact, they did." ~Don Feder)
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To: forkinsocket

At least they were married in a pub. You can’t get more British than that.


7 posted on 05/20/2008 6:46:49 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (The Gift of McCain: Reminding us you can never pray too much.)
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To: forkinsocket
Left to right, child bride and welfare queen mother:


8 posted on 05/20/2008 6:47:38 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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I was born in the wagon of a travelin’ show
My mama used to dance for the money they’d throw
Papa would do whatever he could
Preach a little gospel
Sell a couple bottles of doctored brew

CHORUS:
Gypsies, tramps and thieves
We’d hear it from the people of the town
They’d call us gypsies, tramps and thieves
But every night all the men would come around
And lay their money down

Picked up a boy just south of Mobile
Gave him a ride, filled him with a hot meal
I was sixteen, he was twenty-one
Rode with us to Memphis
And papa woulda shot him if he knew what he’d done

Chorus

I never had schoolin’ but he taught me well
With his smooth southern style
Three months later, I’m a gal in trouble
And I haven’t seen him for a while
I haven’t seen him for a while

She was born in the wagon of a travelin’ show
Her mama had to dance for the money they’d throw
Grandpa’d do whatever he could
Preach a little gospel
Sell a couple bottles of doctored brew


9 posted on 05/20/2008 6:48:10 AM PDT by devane617 (We're Screwed)
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To: forkinsocket
'British values mean nothing to me,'

The Brits have values?!? Since when? Aren't the making manbearpigs over there?!?

10 posted on 05/20/2008 6:48:15 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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"Pikeys. I f***in' hate pikeys..."

11 posted on 05/20/2008 6:48:36 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: forkinsocket
The happy couple:


12 posted on 05/20/2008 6:48:41 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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Neighbours say the family, who live on benefits and do not pay rent, are terrorising the street by playing loud music late at night, throwing rubbish into neighbours' gardens and spitting on their windows.

Disgusting pieces of crap. Britain used to be great, once.

13 posted on 05/20/2008 6:55:44 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: forkinsocket

When did this stop going on in the US?


14 posted on 05/20/2008 6:55:49 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: forkinsocket
...the family, who live on benefits and do not pay rent...

The mom is 31 with a 5th kid on the way, probably 5 more by the time she is done - and every last one of them will likely spend their lives on welfare, and pop out similarly large numbers of additional entitlement parasites.

You get more of what you reward, and less of what you punish. And when it is failure that is rewarded, and success punished, the outcome is not pretty.

15 posted on 05/20/2008 6:56:40 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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the family, who live on benefits and do not pay rent,

So few words, yet they explain so much.

16 posted on 05/20/2008 6:57:55 AM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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What British values would they be speaking of? They still have some? I doubt it.


17 posted on 05/20/2008 6:58:23 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: M203M4

SIXTH kid on the way


18 posted on 05/20/2008 6:58:36 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: forkinsocket
Two Million Britons Emigrate In 10 Years
19 posted on 05/20/2008 7:00:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: arderkrag

It’s not my problem people around here don’t understand our culture and values.”


Better get used to hearing that..................


20 posted on 05/20/2008 7:05:30 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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