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HOUSE GOPERS STOMPING MAD OVER PROSPECTS (GOP in self-destruct mode)
MSNBC ^ | 5/14/2008 | Mike Viqueira

Posted on 05/14/2008 10:08:52 AM PDT by tobyhill

Lot's of very glum faces among House GOP members this morning as they emerged from their weekly closed-door session. The political situation is not good, and they aren't even trying to deny it.

Rep. Tom Davis stomped on the concrete floor of the Capitol basement when asked by reporters about Republican fortunes at the moment.

"This is the floor," he said, by way of explanation. "We're below the floor."

Inside the meeting, Davis had just presented his colleagues with what he said was a 20-page memo outlining his prescription for a way out of this mess. He did not offer details to the press, yet did not spare the party and the president scathing criticism in his public comments.

"The president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth," Davis said.

He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file. Look at yesterday's vote on the SPRO, where Republicans defied the president in droves. Lo and behold, the White House says today that it will not veto the bill.

Today is also the day when the House takes up the farm bill, which the president has promised to veto. It’s expected that this will become the second veto of Bush's administration to be overridden -- though the farm bill has more of a parochial dynamic than the national political one.

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KEYWORDS: gopcoup; rinorevolution; rinos; rmsp; tomdavis
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1 posted on 05/14/2008 10:10:08 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file

Oh, Bull SH#T

It's the rank & files lack of BALLS, period.

2 posted on 05/14/2008 10:13:50 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: tobyhill

It’s their own fault. they’re a bunch of cowards


3 posted on 05/14/2008 10:14:03 AM PDT by wny
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To: tobyhill

It’s their own fault. they’re a bunch of cowards


4 posted on 05/14/2008 10:14:07 AM PDT by wny
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To: tobyhill
If the House GOP leadership believes that their problem is that President Bush has been too conservative and vetoes too many bills, then the situation is far worse than they think.
5 posted on 05/14/2008 10:14:18 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace Is Not The Question.)
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To: tobyhill
Stupid asses want SCHIP and now have put "cap and trade" on the GOP website?

And they wonder why they are in such a predicament? They don't have an effin clue.

6 posted on 05/14/2008 10:14:41 AM PDT by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for Juan McCain)
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To: tobyhill

The GOP is DOA. Instead of starting a new party (as many conservatives have suggested), Now is the time for the Conservatives to jump in and take control. Start locally, in the state and work toward taking control of the National GOP.


7 posted on 05/14/2008 10:15:34 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: tobyhill

Sometimes you need to clean house and start over to achieve future victories and build a powerful program. This is analogous to what Bear Bryant did at Texas A&M.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 10:15:58 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: tobyhill

“He believes Bush’s staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file.”

Boo...hoo...hoo!!!

We need to be more like liberal Democrats so that we can keep getting elected; conservatism be damned!


9 posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:40 AM PDT by dr.zaeus
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To: tobyhill
"We're below the floor."

...and soon to be below the ground, and for good reason.

10 posted on 05/14/2008 10:18:07 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: tobyhill

This is great news for conservatives.

The message to RINO leaders at the RNC and Juan “Stupid” McCain should be clear by now, ignore conservatives at your own peril.

Unless the RINO’s move to the right I hope all of us stay home and let the rotten sob’s flush themselves down the toilet.

McCain has stated he does not need our votes, okay now live with that truth.

IMHO, conservatives need to hold fast and make McCain and the RNC come to us.

HOLD FAST and call their bluff.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 10:18:23 AM PDT by stockpirate (A nation that does not honor it's warriors will be defeated by one that does.)
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To: tobyhill
...CINOs/RINOs, On the march.....*music* "Death Dirge"
12 posted on 05/14/2008 10:18:31 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: tobyhill

Quickly, get some conservative “cajones” transplants - they might NOT lose running as conservatives rather than, say “moderates, independents, dimocRAT lite types.”


13 posted on 05/14/2008 10:20:03 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: tobyhill

The day that the Republican party gets more interested in fighting Democrats instead of their base is when they’ll start winning elections again.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 10:20:50 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: tobyhill
He then spoke of the need to "re-brand" the party in the likeness of McCain, which may be a tall order, since many rank-and-file conservatives have reviled McCain for years for his transgressions against party orthodoxy.

Need I say anything else about why this line of thinking will be the demise of the GOP?

15 posted on 05/14/2008 10:21:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: tobyhill
"The president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth," Davis said.

While President Bush is not the best communicator in the world he doesn't swallow what Davis does. And I mean that in the most derogatory sense.

16 posted on 05/14/2008 10:24:31 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather.)
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To: Puppage
The GOP is probably blaming President Bush but the truth is that because the RINOs refused to get ANWR and Coastal Drilling done is the main reason people are abandoning the GOP brand. They're not flocking to the Rats, they just aren't going to the do-nothing GOP. There was a chance in around ‘03 or ‘04 to pass ANWR but failed because of the RINOs. There's an old saying that I believe very true, had gas prices been 10 cents higher in Ohio we would be saying President Kerry. I have to hand it to the Rats, they have successfully neutered the GOP leadership. The GOP leadership should have been telling the RINOs that if they don't get in line there will be no GOP money for them but instead the GOP went for the “big tent party”.
17 posted on 05/14/2008 10:24:51 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
"He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill.."

And this is the leadership of the House?

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18 posted on 05/14/2008 10:25:47 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: andy58-in-nh
If the House GOP leadership believes that their problem is that President Bush has been too conservative and vetoes too many bills, then the situation is far worse than they think.

Having cheerfully sat back and allowed the GOP congress to spend like drunken sailors in the first 6 years of his administration, the fact that President Bush has magically turned fiscal conservative is not sitting well with the crew. But Bush abetted the spending spree so he bears equal responsibility.

19 posted on 05/14/2008 10:26:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: tobyhill
He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file.

Oh yeah! This'll get the money flowing in to RNC coffers. LOL. The party is dead and those "teardrops from heaven" are Ronald Reagans.

20 posted on 05/14/2008 10:26:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather.)
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