2) The FLDS can site an unbroken chain back to Smith and the early Mormon church that is as compelling as the LDS.
3) the FLDS uses the BOM and I believe the other main works. It isn’t like we are comparing Hinduism and Christianity.
Posted on 05/11/2008 6:58:25 AM PDT by MrEdd
If there is abuse where the parents can be traced to the teen getting pregnant then I would hope the parents be held accountable. Look if there is a call made to CPS or a call is made to an abuse center & they send it to CPS then CPS has to act on it. If your neighbor get mad at you for ANY reason & calls CPS they have to come out. If you don't want to believe that ..fine. But is true. They can't take chances with child abuse etc. My neighbor is a NJ DYFS worker & she spends more time going out on fake calls. If when she gets to the house there is no open abuse but a bag of pot is sitting out or a whacked out parent is the only one home she has to involve the police. Its really that simple & why people don't understand that I don't know. Its been stated over & over. Your pregnant project teen comparison has nothing to do with what is going on in TX. A judge found cause to remove the children so off they took them. It didn't help that the FLDS is well known for what they do. Their pervert leader is in jail & facing more trials.
Now if we take your example of the project teen living in a place where there is a different religion going on & there are many pregnant teens & a leader who is behind these pregnancies I am all for going in there & raiding it also.
What adults do among themselves is one thing but when it comes down to child abuse & underage sex then I glad TX had the guts to say not in our state...
“and there only be one charge of abuse”
I don’t think all the charges have yet to be made. I suspect the DNA tests will result in additional charges.
Apparently, these women have no choice, alive or dead.
And we have yet to see any charges regarding some of the other practices we’ve heard and read about—such as “breaking the baby.”
FLDS.Among other things, in Doctrine & Covenants Section 132, Joseph revealed polygamy as a "new and everlasting covenant." Smith went on to proclaim those who failed to practice polygamy would not be permitted to enter into God's glory.
In 1890, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints buckled under intense pressure from the Federal Government (who had ordered the church shut down and their property seized) and officially outlawed polygamy.
Another major difference lies in the Mormon Temple Ceremony. Although Joseph Smith plagiarized the Masonic Rites when he concocted the Mormon Temple work, he did make several significant changes. Among other things, Smith called Christian Pastors "dimwitted hirelings of Satan," and had initiates chant "Oh Marvelous Lucifer" in Hebrew.
When word of these abominations leaked out, the Utah LDS Church gave in to pressure caused by bad publicity and altered the ritual -- despite Smith's specific instruction the Ceremony was to never change. On the other hand, many of their fundamentalist cousins stubbornly stick to Smith's original revelation.
Re. If that’s true, aren’t the FLDS merely following their prophet and isn’t LDS the real breakaway sect?
In the eyes of many who have studied Mormonism, YES.
Re. What became of the Mormon group that didn’t go to Utah? I believe they were/are called The Reorganized Church of J.C. of Latter Day Saints...?
There have been over 300 breakaway sects. Many of them came before 1847 (when Brigham and the Saints headed west) and did not make the trek to Utah. With roughly 250,000 members, the Reorganized LDS Church is the largest. To their credit, they have never practices polygamy or observed the temple ceremonies. They are headquartered in Independence, Missouri. A few years ago, they changed their name to The Community of Christ.
You are 100% correct, sir!
If they did so by now people would claim they couldn’t have possibly properly investigated so quickly. The fact is the DNA tests and other aspects of the investigation are going to take a little time.
Interesting statement. That logic would make the LDS Church a corporation.
They should take em to court!
The F(lds) have some doctrines and practices that differ substantially from any other "Mormon" group ~ the ban on toys for children leaps to the fore, but they also lead a communal life on a large scale, and do wifeswapping, and child swapping.
I'm pretty sure I'd have recalled that if I read about early Mormons undertaking those practices ~ some specialist can probably point to some isolated individuals doing that in the early days no doubt, but not anything involving 10,000+ people I don't believe.
Ervil LeBaron supposedly murdered the F(lds) founder, an ol' Ervil had some "innovative doctrines" on his pallet, e.g. murdered 39 people that we know of, and felt the F(lds) was a direct competitor with his group.
Let's all agree that the F(lds) folks are most like kooks and moonbats who need to be straightened out. Once that's done they can elect to do what they want.
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