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'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'
The Guardian (UK) ^

Posted on 05/10/2008 7:07:11 PM PDT by Mount Athos

Two weeks after The Observer revealed the shocking story of Rand Abdel-Qader, 17, murdered because of her infatuation with a British solider in Basra, southern Iraq, her father is defiant. Sitting in the front garden of his well-kept home in the city's Al-Fursi district, he remains a free man, despite having stamped on, suffocated and then stabbed his student daughter to death.

Abdel-Qader, 46, a government employee, was initially arrested but released after two hours. Astonishingly, he said, police congratulated him on what he had done. 'They are men and know what honour is,' he said.

Rand, who was studying English at Basra University, was deemed to have brought shame on her family after becoming infatuated with a British soldier, 22, known only as Paul...

It was her first youthful infatuation and it would be her last. She died on 16 March after her father discovered she had been seen in public talking to Paul, considered to be the enemy, the invader and a Christian. Though her horrified mother, Leila Hussein, called Rand's two brothers, Hassan, 23, and Haydar, 21, to restrain Abdel-Qader as he choked her with his foot on her throat, they joined in. Her shrouded corpse was then tossed into a makeshift grave without ceremony as her uncles spat on it in disgust.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdelqadir; basra; honorkilling; honorkillings; honormurder; iraq; iraqiwomen; islam; muslimwomen; sharia; uktroops
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Worth reading the end part of the article to hear what the mother has to say.
1 posted on 05/10/2008 7:07:11 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

The hubris of the idea that we can reform a muslim country.


2 posted on 05/10/2008 7:11:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

You said it.


3 posted on 05/10/2008 7:11:54 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Mount Athos

To call these people animals is an insult to all of God’s creatures.


4 posted on 05/10/2008 7:12:19 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Mount Athos

It was her first youthful infatuation and it would be her last. She died on 16 March after her father discovered she had been seen in public talking to Paul, considered to be the enemy, the invader and a Christian. Though her horrified mother, Leila Hussein, called Rand’s two brothers, Hassan, 23, and Haydar, 21, to restrain Abdel-Qader as he choked her with his foot on her throat, they joined in. Her shrouded corpse was then tossed into a makeshift grave without ceremony as her uncles spat on it in disgust.

‘Death was the least she deserved,’ said Abdel-Qader. ‘I don’t regret it. I had the support of all my friends who are fathers, like me, and know what she did was unacceptable to any Muslim that honours his religion,’ he said.

Sitting on a chair by his front door and surrounded by the gerberas and white daisies he had planted in the family garden, Abel-Qader attempted to justify his actions.

‘I don’t have a daughter now, and I prefer to say that I never had one. That girl humiliated me in front of my family and friends. Speaking with a foreign solider, she lost what is the most precious thing for any woman. ‘People from western countries might be shocked, but our girls are not like their daughters that can sleep with any man they want and sometimes even get pregnant without marrying. Our girls should respect their religion, their family and their bodies.

‘I have only two boys from now on. That girl was a mistake in my life. I know God is blessing me for what I did,’ he said, his voice swelling with pride. ‘My sons are by my side, and they were men enough to help me finish the life of someone who just brought shame to ours.’

Abdel-Qader, a Shia, says he was released from the police station ‘because everyone knows that honour killings sometimes are impossible not to commit’. Chillingly, he said: ‘The officers were by my side during all the time I was there, congratulating me on what I had done.’ It’s a statement that, if true, provides an insight into how vast the gulf remains between cultures in Iraq and between the Basra police the British army that trains them.


5 posted on 05/10/2008 7:13:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Mount Athos

Both the religion and the culture must be eradicated. If that means burning all the korans and raising and educating all the children ourselves in Western style schools and orphanages, so be it. Something quite similar was done in Japan at the end of WWII to break the traditional militaristic mindset of the country and it seems to have worked really well.


6 posted on 05/10/2008 7:15:13 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Mount Athos

This is disgusting and heartbreaking. I am glad her mother has the courage to leave that demon who did this to her.


7 posted on 05/10/2008 7:18:47 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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"‘Death was the least she deserved,’ said Abdel-Qader. ‘I don’t regret it. I had the support of all my friends who are fathers, like me, and know what she did was unacceptable to any Muslim that honours his religion,’ he said."

What this scumbag 'deserves' is prolonged torture culminating in the cruelest death that can be imagined. What kind of 'man' can kill an innocent young girl who merely talks to someone in public. Even if there had been anything more between her and the Brit soldier (and it sure sounds like there was nothing but some innocent exchanges of pleasantries) only the most bestial 'religion' imaginable can make such a thing subject to death. Anytime I hear all the "Islam is peace" bleating of fools I think of barbaric practices like this.
8 posted on 05/10/2008 7:19:56 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: Mount Athos

EVIL death-cult, EVIL people.
One can no more be infected with Islam and considered ‘good’, than a person can be riddled with cancer and considered ‘healthy’.
If only they would ALL kill each other-one big, death orgy.
The world would be 100% better without a single Muslim alive and I will never change my mind about that.


9 posted on 05/10/2008 7:21:09 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Mount Athos

You know, falling for a British soldier and a Christian man at that was not a bad thing if her father thought about it. Her life would have been much better with a Western man than what she will find in Iraq.


10 posted on 05/10/2008 7:23:56 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: LibWhacker

Anne Coulter was right.


11 posted on 05/10/2008 7:27:06 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: MovementConservative

It would have been a good thing for the girl, and ultimately the entire family. The wellbeing of women, and particularly this poor girl, seems to be of the lowest priority.


12 posted on 05/10/2008 7:28:02 PM PDT by samson1097
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To: Travis McGee
The truth of the story is probably far different. Odds are good that ol' Abdel-Qader knocked up his daughter and murdered her to hide what he'd done.

The two cops referred to probably know about it and took a bribe.

13 posted on 05/10/2008 7:28:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: samson1097

“It would have been a good thing for the girl, and ultimately the entire family. The wellbeing of women, and particularly this poor girl, seems to be of the lowest priority.”

Just to clarify, it was a response to a comment that if the father thought about it, he would have realized she would have been much better off with the Brit.


14 posted on 05/10/2008 7:30:09 PM PDT by samson1097
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To: Mount Athos

He doesn’t deserve the term “Father”, he doesn’t even deserve to be called human. A Father who could kill his daughter is a monster.


15 posted on 05/10/2008 7:31:20 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Mount Athos

The end of the article indicates the British soldier wasn’t interested in her. I hope the soldiers in Iraq understand the danger they place these women in when they interact with them.


16 posted on 05/10/2008 7:33:49 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: steveo
To call these people animals is an insult to all of God’s creatures.

Barbarians does them well.

17 posted on 05/10/2008 7:40:33 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Mount Athos

Makes one long for the days of British colonialism, when they’d do a bit of “honor killing” themselves.


18 posted on 05/10/2008 7:41:50 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Mount Athos

The only solution to “honor killings” is to make the punishment so “dishonorable” that it deters the crime.

The entire family should be held up for public scorn as being dishonorable and unclean. Public rituals like dipping each of their right hands in a pot full of pig fat will also help. Even the family name could be given a prefix or suffix to show that they are in shame, and all their official papers changed in that way as well.

Mosques should be encouraged to turn them away, and they might even be forced into moving to an undesirable part of town or living among non-Muslims.


19 posted on 05/10/2008 7:42:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Astonishingly, he said, police congratulated him on what he had done. 'They are men and know what honour is,' he said.

losers... these men have sooooooo little to offer women that they create huge chips for their lame shoulders. Men this pathetic are funny - well, not in this case - because an innocent died - but usually funny.

20 posted on 05/10/2008 7:45:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (A vote for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama)
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