do I really have to say it???
Posted on 05/08/2008 2:14:24 PM PDT by MSMLies
DNC Superdelegate Puts His Vote Up For Sale Steven Ybarra Wants $20 Million For His Vote SACRAMENTO, Calif. (CBS13) ― In this tight battle for the Democratic nomination we've heard a lot about the candidates courting superdelegates.
But, one superdelegate is courting the candidates. He says he'll sell his vote for a price. A very high price: $20 million.
Steven Ybarra of Sacramento says that eight-figure price is peanuts for the presidency.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbs13.com ...
You can sell these things? The Republicans should buy it.
Why not put it on Ebay and see how much it’s really worth?
Yes, the party of ethics and principle
I’m sure he isn’t the only super delegate doing this. Just the only one being honest about it.
This item tells everyone all he needs to know about democrats.
Wht does the FEC say about selling a vote?
Surely this isn’t legal. You can’t even sell your vote.
I would not be surprised if Rush already had such a seat (through a clandestine surrogate, of course.)
I don't have $20 million, but if I promise to donate $5 to your re-election campaign, will you say something just as stupid and just as damaging to the Dim party again tomorrow?
Please?
Nothing. They don't regulate party conventions.
I'm guessing it's perfectly legal. I'm not aware of any laws regulating party conventions.
Many of the superdelegates who could well decide the Democratic presidential nominee have already been plied with campaign contributions by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, a new study shows.
[snip]
Obama's political action committee has doled out more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005, the study found, and of the 81 who had announced their support for Obama, 34 had received donations totaling $228,000.
Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates, and only 13 of the 109 who had announced for her have received money, totaling about $95,000.
ludicrous...
Clinton doesn’t have the funds
and Obama doesn’t need the vote.
so this genius can go “pound sand!”
FEC Rules For National Convention Delegates
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/delegate.shtml
To Whom Do These Rules Apply?
These rules apply to any individual who is seeking selection as a delegate, or who has already been selected as a delegate, at any level of the delegate selection process (local, state or national). 11 CFR 110.14(b)(1).
Do Delegates Have to File Reports with the FEC?
No. Individual delegates are not required to register or file regular reports of the funds they raise and spend for their personal delegate activity. 11 CFR 110.14(d)(3) and (e)(2). However, delegates acting as a group may have to file reports as a delegate committee. See “Do delegate committees have to file FEC reports?” below.
How are Funds Raised and Spent for Delegate Activity Treated Under Federal Campaign Finance Law?
Funds raised and spent for delegate selection are considered “contributions” and “expenditures” made for the purpose of influencing a federal election1and are therefore subject to the federal law’s prohibitions.2 11 CFR 110.14(c)(1) and (2). Although the law generally does not limit contributions per delegate, 11 CFR 110.1(m)(1) and 110.14(d), certain other contribution limits apply. See e.g., 11 CFR 110.5(e). Please note that these prohibitions and limits apply to contributions of goods and services (in-kind contributions) as well as to monetary contributions. 11 CFR 100.52(d).
What are the Limits on Contributions to Delegates?
Although contributions to an individual delegate are not subject to any per delegate limit, they do count against an individual contributor’s biennial contribution limit of $108,200. 11 CFR 110.1(m); 110.5(e) and 110.14(d)(1).3
Do these Rules Apply if I’m Only Raising Money to Pay for Travel to the Convention?
Yes. Travel and subsistence expenses related to the delegate selection process and the national nominating convention are considered “expenditures.” 11 CFR 110.14(e). Thus, a delegate may not use prohibited funds to pay for travel to attend the national convention and related food and lodging expenses. Advisory Opinions (AOs) 2000-38 and 1980-64.
I’m a Federal Officeholder who will Serve as a Delegate. May I Use my Campaign Funds to Pay for My Travel to the Convention?
Special rules apply to federal candidates or officeholders who attend the convention as delegates. While campaign funds may not be used to pay for anyone’s personal expenses (i.e., expenses that would exist irrespective of the candidate’s campaign or his/her duties as a federal officeholder), candidates who attend the convention as delegates may use campaign funds to pay for their own convention-related travel, food and lodging expenses. 11 CFR 110.14(c) and (e) and AO 1995-47 n.4.
The Commission has issued advisory opinions clarifying that such candidates may also use campaign funds to pay the travel and subsistence expenses of other individuals (e.g., spouse, child, Congressional staff person) in connection with the convention if the individual will be engaging in significant campaign-related or officeholder-related activity on the candidate’s behalf during the convention. 11 CFR 113.1(g); AOs 1996-20, 1996-19 and 1995-47.
Although the use of campaign funds to pay someone’s personal expenses is a violation of the personal use prohibition, when travel involves both personal activities and campaign (or officeholder) activities, campaign funds may be used to pay the personal portion of travel and subsistence costs if the individual reimburses the campaign within 30 days. 11 CFR 113.1(g)(1)(ii)(C); AO 2000-12.
What a putz!
"And I keep asking the question of the DNC: 'why won't you earmark money for these voters?' And their answer is, 'oh, we can't do that' Which is a lie," said Ybarra.
With the Democratic National Committee saying 'no,' Ybarra waits for a 'yes' from already cash-strapped Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.
Hillary might be cash-strapped, but Obama certainly isn't -- his campaign buys votes all the time.
That's funny right there, don't care who you are. Wonder how many Mexican-American's will vote for McCain this fall.
I would add that since the FEC currently does not have a quorum, and since the Senate Dems have refused to let any of Bush’s appointees come up for a vote, none of the rules apply anyway. The FEC cannot issue any rulings or do anything else until they have a quorum.
Maybe Hillary can pay him $20,000 a month for the rest of his life. She could get off very cheap.
Wonder how many Mexican-Mexicans who are here illegally will vote for Obama this year.
do I really have to say it???
Well....THAT is interesting! Obama pays more.
Isn’t this what happeneed to Rome?
The Rats sure have a interesting way to get their nominee
I’m thinking the same thing. Super Delegate votes can’t legally be sold, can they?
Wouldn’t that be bribery?
DNC skum.
CHAOS
CHAOS chaos
CHAOS
aperiodic deterministic behavior which is very sensitive to its initial conditions
Soreass will buy it.
Oops...never mind...
It would be REALLY sad if this were illegal. The government already has its nose in political parties too much as it is...they should be left on their own to make their own decisions who to nominate, and it really shouldn't require a party at all, anyway. That is, the parties shouldn't be given such strong pseudo-official status as it is--they are merely private assemblies of people who decide to work together on supporting a single cadidate via a slate of electors.
Wonder how many Mexican-Mexicans who are here illegally will vote for Obama this year.
I was wondering the very same thing!
IANAL, but from what I understand, 527s don’t count, and the $20,000,000 could be doled out from several front groups.
It sure sounds like it.
I had the same thought. However, to all those who think that the vote selling is illegal, remember that this is a Private Party Vote, not a Federal Election Vote. Would it be illegal for a stock owner to sell his voting interest at a shareholder meeting? No. A poltical party vote is much the same thing. Not illegal, just unethical. Unethical is par for the course when it comes to the 'Rats.
And you can be sure that all of the superdelegates are selling their votes in one way or another. Most are probably asking for future earmarks, committee assignments, federal jobs for relatives, a retirement as an ambassador somewhere, etc.
“This item tells everyone all he needs to know about democrat(ic politicians).”
(If I may assume that’s what you meant )
Yes. It tells us they’re all whores. High-rent low-class, but whores.
So....
On one hand we have the expenses of a campaign for travel,staff, advertising, stumping,wardrobe, etc.
Then, we have the part of giving money to Delegates.
With so much rhetoric over McCain-Feingold campaign laws, when it really gets down to the nitty-gritty, the phrase ‘democratic vote’ gets thrown out the window, as long as as the cash is ‘shoveled in’ the window.
“He says he’ll sell his vote for a price. A very high price: $20 million.”
Well I at least give the man credit. He is exposing the blatant hypocrisy loud and clear.
“so this genius can go “pound sand!””
Maybe he’d settle for a quickie with Hillary?
Oops. It’s a democrat, so.... a quickie with Obama?
P.S. No offense intended to whores.
“Super Delegate votes can’t legally be sold, can they?”
Super Delegates
Delegates
Voting blocs
Influential race leadership
Influential corporate leadership
Oranized Religion
Voters (The democratic theme that says ‘vote for me and I’ll give you health care for free(but it aint).
Walking Money.
Free Cigarettes and Booze.
Even if it were illegal, it would only be illegal for Republicans.
Thanks for the ping!
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